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[gdq] [a little negative] I saw some posts about this last night that finally gave me the words to what bothered me this week.
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Namely, it felt like the incentive runs are legitimately out of control.
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A lot of the bid wars unless it was something gigantic like Elden Ring basically got smothered comparatively.
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Several runs had the oxygen sucked out of them because every other sentence coming out of the runner was "HEY REMINDER IF YOU DON'T GET 100K FOR SCRIMBLO'S REVENGE BY THE END OF THIS RUN THEN IT WON'T HAPPEN! GET YOUR DONATIONS IN NOOOOW"
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Not the game runner the current event runner/host.
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That whole shit with SuperHot VR and Bloodstained being removed because they ran overtime (mostly for stalling for getting incentives for runs met) and then when there was enough time to bring back at least one of them sticking the Pokemon failed incentive back in and resetting the donation count on it was just.
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Fuck runners of less popular games and fuck you if you didn't like the PBS Pledgeathon vibes getting cranked to 11.
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Normally I love the last second pushes to break records and stuff at GDQ, like it's a big warm fuzzy moment of "video games can be good actually."
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But given how just... I'm trying to think of how to phrase it.
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Tone deaf?
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We're still in a pandemic, inflation's hitting record highs, some nerd screaming at Twitch chat about how the final run just won't happen unless we break the previous SGDQ record while they are in fact setting up the stage again and the stream team is pumping in every OverClocked Remix they can find of Hopes & Dreams to keep the HOOIYYYPE felt very cynical.
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And yeah it's for charity, a lot of shit can be excused for charity.
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But maybe consider that a certain point your own mismanagement hurts you.
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The last bit was ridiculous especially since the runners and setup were right there already from the run before it.
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Like imagine if you went to a charity concert and the headlining band played a set and walked off so that the organizer could walk out and go "OKAY UNLESS YOU ALL GIVE US ANOTHER $250 BUCKS RIGHT NOW THE BAND IS LEAVING AND THEY'RE ON THEIR TOUR BUS AND THE SOUND GUY IS GONNA START PACKING UP WHILE WE DO THIS"
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
it felt really bad
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No the fuck they're not. You already resolved to do this. Don't lie to me.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
im trying to think of how to word it but it felt kinda..... idk. soulless? it purely felt like Must Make Number Go Up
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Yeah it really sucked a lot of the community vibe out of the whole thing.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah
there was no community, the money was all that mattered
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I didn't feel like a guy watching other people do their hobby and we raise money for a good cause, I felt like an audience being pandered to and demanded from in equal turns.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and at that point it's like... yes, it's for a good cause. possibly the best cause!
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Yeah! MSF is a charity I give to already!
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
but at this point it was so uncomfortable because it took away the feeling that made gdq fun to begin with
621st Raven
yeah, this felt very...for lack of a better word...corporate
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and the engineered hype and obsession with hype trains definitely felt like some attempt to appease a shareholder's demand for "MORE GROWTH, MORE NUMBER"
621st Raven
...especially that last-minute attempt to pile up donations after the Elden Ring AR% run. Trying to push for more donations to an OCRemix of the Ducktales Moon theme and i found myself embarrassed for them.

Truth be told after that I'm not sure if I'll be tuning into the next GDQ if we're going to have more of that
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I mean it was the first live one back after years so I will chalk a lot of this up to growing pains.
P. ianthina
Yeah, it's... I think it was an overcorrection to a smaller on-site audience.
P. ianthina
Because it definitely felt very... "we need to do more"
P. ianthina
on their part, and they just didn't quiiiite... approach it.
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I saw some more twitter discussion on this with big names involved.
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And part of it seems to be a disconnect between the live and streaming audience.
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Because the live audience is caught up in the hype of finally breaking three million for SGDQ and the big screaming excitement and booming music and it feels like the big moment at the end of the 80's teen movie where they save the rec hall or whatever.
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And the streaming audience felt like they were gonna be yelled at until enough people coughed up money to make the GDQ end.
P. ianthina
Yeah... I could see that real easy.
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Because now actual names in the community are talking about it and it's notable that everyone who had a problem with it was runners who weren't at the event.
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And the super ardent defenders are mostly guys who were.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
that makes sense
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(Aside: I wouldn't have changed my opinion regardless but I feel vindicated to be on the same side of the issue as Authorblues and if RTs/likes are endorsements Spikevegeta and Trihex.)
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yeah a giant +100 to everything in this plurk
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a lot of it is worded better here then i could manage myself but im actually going to take a moment to focus on the online/in-person split, specifically
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namely - as someone who only really got into gdq fully during the shift to online
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i watched past in person ones but never as like, The Whole Week, b/c the setup just didn't click with me before
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there was always going to be growing pains with the inevitable shift back into In Person being the core of the event, but that risks turning into an actual injury if they don't reassess expectations and management decisions
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the crowd is different. theworld is different.
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people have way less stupid fun money to burn and are less comfortable burning what they do have, and there's also like... a much lower general tolerance for supposedly fun things breaking kayfabe to demand money, i wanna say?
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like as said, that's always been The Goal, raising money for fucking amazing charities, but.... the vibe was different towards the end of the week this year, nan
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*man
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(also am i low-key Bitter about bloodstained getting the axe for fucking bdsp, of all things?)
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(lil bit. lil bit! because if nothing else it added to the feeling of "fuck you, we need more donations")
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Yeah that is what angered me the most, they axed two runs for time, then when they had time for one if not both brought vack BDSP and reset its donation clock.
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yeah that was like
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in any other situation and with any other group id call it outright ducking scummy, because it's nakedly a case of "hey it's Pokemon, y'all donate for Pokemon runs right?"
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because superhot and bloodstained are so much less likely to pull Big Number
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and even as it is I'm side eyeing the deciding heavily
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also phone do you mind not going with so many tense typos, jfc
621st Raven
okay i missed them axing Bloodstained. ...That does piss me off
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
for what it's worth
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
the bloodstained runner actively volunteered
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
they weren't happy about it but they actively volunteered to be cut for the time thing
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Yeah both those guys did which if anything makes it more bullshit they still got bumped for Pokemon.
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They had other runs but the Pokemon guys did too, a 4 hour one.
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yeah that makes it worse for me actually
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because it's like
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if a dude volunteers to quit a thing to help you out, and you later have enough time to fit the thing back in at no strain to yourself, it's polite to tag the guy who did you a solid back in?
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rather then the one that'll make more Number?
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like this is assuming they either didn't ask the cut runners or they weren't otherwise busy, but that's how it feels when paired with the late-week Number Go Up desperation
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(which like, the music thing is funny in hindsight, bc i was wondering why megalovania and h&d got played like every other break)
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