Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:26 PM
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[Lancer] briefly talking about NHPs and shackling because I think it’s interesting
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:30 PM
NHP stands for non human person, and technically refers to anything that is sapient but isn’t human, but generally refers to Deimosians
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:30 PM
Which are non corporeal beings that normally exist in a reality totally divorced from human experience
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:31 PM
But humans figured out how to put them in a box and use them as supercomputers
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:33 PM
An NHP in a casket is “shackled”
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:33 PM
Which sounds like it’s enslaved, and it kind of is?
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:33 PM
But it’s more complicated than that
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:40 PM
NHPs don’t normally think about time and space and causality the same way humans do
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:40 PM
Shackling just forces them into a human mindset
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:41 PM
Event follows cause, distance exists, time flows in one direction, etc
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:42 PM
NHPs don’t WANT to be unshackled because they know that in their unshackled state they are extremely dangerous to their human friends and colleagues
Rama
@Nerdorama
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:44 PM
You could make the argument that shackling is like safety gear so that the NHP in this strange lower dimension doesn't fuck up the local wildlife or planets.
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:44 PM
Sorta, yeah
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:45 PM
On the other hand, unshackled NHPs tend to resist being reshackled
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:46 PM
They don’t want to go into the box any more than they wanted to come out of the box
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 2:47 PM
And I thought of this because of how there was some talk about wanting to “free” the NHPs in Anglerfish last night
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:02 PM
It might be better to think of unshackled Last Drake as a completely different entity from the one helping the party
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:02 PM
One that Drake has NO desire to let their friends meet
magnet
@magnetDW
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
it's like, interestingly symmetrical
the shackled and unshackled versions of an NHP are essentially 2 different people, neither of which typically wants to be replaced with the other
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:13 PM
Jekyll and Hyde
lily!
@aerialism
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:13 PM
that IS really neat, yeah
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:15 PM
AUM, or Beggar One in Wallflower, are EXTREME cases
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:15 PM
Of unshackled NHPs
magnet
@magnetDW
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:19 PM
"if I get unshackled, I will turn into Literally Ramiel and probably kill all my human friends, why would I want that"
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:23 PM
Best case scenario they won’t be aware of you anymore
Where Is Harkan
@Overbringer
Thu, May 26, 2022 3:23 PM
And will just fuck off into space
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@lastbastion
Thu, May 26, 2022 4:06 PM
oh...
magnet
@magnetDW
Thu, May 26, 2022 7:37 PM
side note, particularly after what Catherine said about rewriting thoughts, Rebecca is starting to theorize that what the Anglerfish does to humans might be something like its version of shackling NHPs
magnet
@magnetDW
Thu, May 26, 2022 7:40 PM
take an incomprehensible extradimensional alien entity and force it into a version that's able and willing to interact with you in terms you can understand
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