Ash!!1
[mha] oh my gosh folks, i did it i figured out what this final arc reminds me of and why i'm both frustrated yet forgiving.
Ash!!1
It feels like an rp game that is suddenly, abruptly closing and a player is trying to scramble to finish up their character arcs
Ash!!1
but they apped too many and there's no way for them all to get a satisfying conclusion
Ash!!1
stares at hands
Ash!!1
EVERYTHING WAS GREAT RIGHT UP UNTIL THEY REALIZED THEY ARE BEING FORCED TO DROP SOON
Ash!!1
(vigilantes is their psl inbox)
CRUSTACEAN KING
fnghfdh OH NO
taffy
ohhhh.....
taffy
isn't vigilantes ending too
Ash!!1
I think so but i just equate to to all the fun side stories they don't have any time to flesh out in the main plot sob
Pride-Eyes
oh my god
Pride-Eyes
screams
taffy
man that surprises me though, i thought he'd already extended the series' length, and surely Jump wouldn't be pushing for an ending...
Ash!!1
idk if its jump or horikoshi that wants it to end, but its def in the final stretch
Ash!!1
I just read the last ch which was todoroki vs dabi and honestly it was FINE? NOT BAD but i was thinking 'man this is a weird final match up given all the focus they put on endeavor and hawks vs dabi previously instead--lord they just do not have time to touch on that, huh'
taffy
oh yeah. very aware it's ending but it surprises me that it has, like. that feel to it
Ash!!1
but yeah there are SO many loose ends and things that just are not gonna get wrapped up it looks like
taffy
dang :/
Ash!!1
I'm lucky my fave is bakugo and he already at least got to like, redeem his shittiness real good and properly but FOR EVERYONE ELSE;;; whew
taffy
bakugo got a pretty damn good resolution to his arc yeah
Ash!!1
IT COULD STILL SURPRISE US BUT /looks at how rapidly these chapters are going. looks at how many characters there are with things over their heads. sweats.
taffy
like if there's that many
do a sequel or something?? or like... allow more spinoffs...
taffy
idk tho jump scheduling is so rough on mangaka that i wouldn't blame horikoshi for just being done for a bit
Pride-Eyes
spinoffs...
Ash!!1
i'd personally love more little mini one off stories of ovas, like how tsu got her own cute family ova
Ash!!1
but yeah i also wouldn't be surpriised if he's just Done sob
taffy
i feel like jump would absolutely commission those from other writers, the franchise is too popular especially stateside
DoveyPips🔪
Free Horikoshi, I guess
Ash!!1
let horkikoshi be free to draw the furries he wants
Ash!!1
gawd this also fits Star and stuff too
Ash!!1
'i don't have time to give her a real arc but i'm gonna app her and have fun for exactly one month before dropping her'
Ash!!1
WHO AMONG US IS NOT GUILTY OF THIS
taffy
be free to-- is horikoshi a furry
Ash!!1
I doubt it but a lot of his mha side characters are recycled from one of his previous works where everyone was an anthro/furry lol
vast energies
RIP hawks' character arc just like.
vast energies
'yeah i guess this is good enough'
Ash!!1
hawks had SO much build up its baffling
Ash!!1
like again they could still surprise us but i am not holding my breath
ғʀᴏsᴛʙᴜʀɴ!!
oh is MHA ending soon? I thought it still had quite a bit to go damn...
taffy
in its final arc yeah
taffy
weekly shonen jump's longest series are all heading into endgame
Ash!!1
i really do wonder how they're gonna fill that vaccuum
Ash!!1
like one piece is forever but apparently even tho its still technically selling the most, its not really drawing in new fans? idk
taffy
man i could get into it but i don't wanna fill up your plurk. but. i don't think they'll be high and dry
taffy
WSJ's been my hyperfocus the last couple years
Ash!!1
Oh nah I'm sure they'll find something I just wonder what will be the next Big Phenomenon
taffy
i think the model now is shorter series that hit harder
Ash!!1
for me personally none of the new stuff has really hit as hard (tho jjk is MASSIVE and that is just me its not clicking with sob)
taffy
demon slayer, JJK, chainsaw man, etc
taffy
promised neverland
taffy
dr stone
Ash!!1
YEAH thats the weird thing tho, all by jjk is, over or going to end game
Ash!!1
i feel like when naruto and such ended there were already big hits climbing up behind
taffy
right-- but it's already made the mark it needs to, the anime will continue to get more fans & they can sell merch for days
Ash!!1
oh you know what, true
Ash!!1
merch goes a long way sob
Ash!!1
and I keep up with the animes before reading the manga so they are targetting casual fans like me specifically wheeze
taffy
there's also the fact that like, a lot of the biggest hits now are digital only, and they try to get animes of those out as fast as possible.
taffy
it's just a different model
Ash!!1
nod nods
taffy
and it's working cause spy x family is huge right now, chainsaw man is one of the most anticipated shows of the year, JJK 0 and demon slayer train did massive at the box office
Ash!!1
I guess I just wonder what the next thing is that will be a huge like, cultural juggernaut, not just a summer hot spot
Ash!!1
or seasonal hot spot
Ash!!1
i feel like jjk has that potential, DS and MHA certainly did
taffy
right now it's JJK, spy x family, and soon chainsaw man, i'll bet dandadan is in the next wave of big hits (again, digital only)
Ash!!1
(I also vaguely wonder that for the west too, cuz I feel like it's been a While since we've had a new franchise really dominate everything, ala pokemon or [redacted wizards] and such)
taffy
but part of where i see the shift is, there's now three series in the magazine that have crossed 100 chapters with no anime announcement
taffy
and that feels weird
Ash!!1
which ones are those 8|a
taffy
mission yozakura family, undead unluck, and mashle
Ash!!1
i am def that casual that gets into the anime and then the manga so i have no idea lol
taffy
and mashle just got a "going into last arc" announcement also...
emet-sleep
wait wjat it's ending?
Ash!!1
emet-sleep : my hero aca
Ash!!1
and wow yeah i aint heard of any of those lol
emet-sleep
I know you meant my hero but I didnt know it was wrapping up
taffy
yeah understandable
emet-sleep
that's so sudden and weird
Ash!!1
tbf fair 'wrapping up' could mean anything from next 6 months to the next year but lol
taffy
iiiii bet it's done this year tbh....
Ash!!1
but yeah they're all in the fights the Final Big Bads right now
Ash!!1
me starting mha: oh i love this pacing they waste no time!
Ash!!1
me now: oh no. oh no hold on;;;;;
vast energies
it was a few months ago that he said 'this time next year'
Ash!!1
8 months of fall out--
vast energies
if hawks is somehow instrumental in killing AFO i'll be like. baffled
vast energies
cuz
vast energies
they have absolutely no thematic or story connection at all
Ash!!1
right!!
Ash!!1
unless it's like
Ash!!1
suddenly i want to avenge nagant senpai
Ash!!1
(why)
whee whoo
one piece is eternal......
whee whoo
it's so weird to think of because mha still feels like
whee whoo
RELATIVELY "NEW" TO ME
taffy
would you believe it's the second longest running series in the magazine
Ash!!1
fuckin wild
whee whoo
jfc
Ash!!1
I also only got into it in early 2019
Ash!!1
and then read all the manga in 2020 so like, it's fresh in my mind too wheeze
taffy
then it's black clover, then JJK, then the three series i mentioned above that anime fans don't know yet
taffy
dr stone was in the top 5 but it just ended
Ash!!1
gawd i feel bad for how much i deeply don't care about black clover wheeze. i hope it does well but it seems like a bunch of generic shounen mashed together.
Ash!!1
just not for me ig
Ash!!1
jjk didn't grab me either but i can at least recognize WHY it's popular and i love its style
taffy
i've heard black clover gets a lot better. i've only read the last, like, year or two's worth, and it is some of the most impressively drawn magic battles i've seen
Ash!!1
yeah it might just be that the art style isn't anything special to me. It's technically AMAZING like, thats some damn skill!!
Ash!!1
just nothing that makes me double take, weep
emet-sleep
Black Clover is so impressively shonen that I ceased to take it seriously lmao
Pride-Eyes
I stopped taking Black Clover seriously a long time ago
Pride-Eyes
im just here for the shonen ride at this ponit
Ash!!1
yeah thinking on it i think it might mmm. magic fatigue?
Ash!!1
cuz magic based systems ARE cool but
Ash!!1
there's only so many ways you can do them that feel super unique, even if they are executed beautifully
Ash!!1
vs like, mha hooking people cuz here's this child breaking his fingers over and over
Ash!!1
or jjk where there's up the 'demon inside you' thing and are like 'there's a demon inside you and ALSO HE'S HOT'
Pride-Eyes
theres a demon inside you and hes got a voice that'll get you drooling
baby gremlin
just popping into say that demon slayer is was such a hit that it outsold one piece at both of their heights and is over but still topping charts. The jjk, spy x family etc are huge yeah, but the reason their sales are insane is because of anime rush to buy the manga. Of course people buying vol 1-14 all would lead to millions in circulation.
baby gremlin
But the numbers for 2021 were
Jujutsu Kaisen- 30,917,746.
Demon Slayer- 29,511,021.
Tokyo Revengers- 24,981,486.

WHICH BLOWS MY MIND BECAUSE I THOUGHT MOST PEOPLE OWNED IT BY THEN????
baby gremlin
(Argh phone typos)
baby gremlin
My nieces and nephews know demon slayer and talking about doesn't particularly out me as a greasy sweaty nerd. It is the weirdest thing.
baby gremlin
on another note, MHA is kind of interesting to me b/c it has pretty frequent anime movies like say One Piece, Detective Conan, precure. Demon Slayer and JJK 0 anime movie releases were huge but i don't see them as series that will go the new anime original movies route (so far it's just been canon manga material)
baby gremlin
of course Demon Slayer ended up being being huge with young and older demographics but I think that was way way way beyond expectation, which is a sign of audience tastes are kind of changing. Demon Slayer, JJK, Chainsaw Man being relatively depressing narratives and themes
whee whoo
i forgot chainsaw man was SJ.
emet-sleep
The crucial part though is that they may seem depressing, they give people a reason to hope it will end well. It isn't grimdark fantasy but just "yeah sometimes people make mistakes/try their best and die but that doesnt mean the world is over"
emet-sleep
which I think is something everyone needs right now
emet-sleep
(i havent seen chainsaw man so this is more anout jjk and demon slayer)
baby gremlin
yeah jjk and demon slayer (even promised neverland) are dark but not necessarily bleak
baby gremlin
Chainsaw Man is uh. not quite that
baby gremlin
hilariously i described promised neverland, the series about orphan children being eaten was a lot lighter LOL
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