duck bastard
[stupid nucarnival fandom shit]
duck bastard
goes to look at twitter announcement to see if there's anything of actual value said
duck bastard
so far, no
duck bastard
What I love the most on this fandom is, that u can't voice out ur opinion on fetishist ppl, without getting attacked... looks like most ppl on this fandom are fetishist
duck bastard
cups hands to mouth IT'S A PORN GAME
Calliente
Why...are you even playing this game
Calliente
If you're not into fetishistic shit
Calliente
Like, porn is basically just. Fetishes??? Technically even the most vanilla shit is a fetish if you get off on it so like...
Calliente
Why is this person HERE
Calliente
Maybe they get off on being offended???
hiroc
Oh that person, I just block them because it's clear they wanna start shit
hiroc
like even if you DIDN'T know the devs are fujoshi... IT'S A PORN GAME
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
so... another troll... why are ppl like this
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
why do i also feel like if this is a yuri game, they're gonna be all over it instead of complaining?
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
why are you even here man?
Cookie Politics
it's a porn game with various kinds of mildly kinky porn, of course the fans will disproportionately be people who enjoy reading mildly kinky porn
Cookie Politics
this is like complaining that people who like exploring are playing an open world or dungeon crawling game
𝕘𝕣𝕖𝕖𝕟 𝕤𝕝𝕚𝕞𝕖
only pure people may play this game with a priest with public nipple chains
W(erewolf)ILF
dkdjcjsjf
W(erewolf)ILF
also honestly I may be biased by Bitterness here but I tend to assume people that pull this shit with BL content probably dont even glance at yuri fjjvjdfj
W(erewolf)ILF
(that or if they do it's with full intent to do the exact same shitstirring)
hiroc
it's the ~Misogyny~
Calliente
To be fair, some of them might be man-hating TERFs who are furious anyone would be interested in men or stories about men, but who fawn over anything related to women
Calliente
Some are definitely people who'd be homophobic about any same-sex relationship, but TERFs who hate anything related to men will quite happily hold media about men or mlm to a way higher standard than anything about women
Calliente
There's really no way to know which this person is, though
Calliente
(I can understand why people are suspicious, though)
Calliente
(Being anti-kink is very TERF-y)
Calliente
(You don't have to be a TERF to be anti-kink but almost all TERFs are anti-kink)
joker
I'm wondering if they meant that as in "people who are fetishizing queer men" but I most often see this kind of objection raised by people who dgaf when women are fetishized in media by men so it's still just a way to hate on women
Calliente
I mean, even if they did want to raise the STOP FETISHIZING QUEER MEN issue, which that whole anti-fujo thing is so stupid and basically just saying PERCEIVED WOMEN ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO ENGAGE WITH SEXUALITY IN CERTAIN WAYS I PERSONALLY APPROVE OF, like...are you shocked that the explicit gay sex game has an audience of people who are into that...
Calliente
WHO DID YOU EXPECT TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE, EXACTLY
Calliente
I'd be complaining more about the game than the audience if that was my issue of choice, but go off I guess???
hiroc
they can suck on it (heh), since the game hits 1mil downloads
Calliente
Even straining to my utmost, I can't give that person the benefit of the doubt of having any intention/meaning behind their words that ISN'T stupid and entirely contrary to human logic as we understand it
W(erewolf)ILF
right no matter what it is. absurd
Calliente
And I'm usually good at going "well MAYBE if they thought this there might be some like. Internal logic to their actions, even if it's terrible logic"
Calliente
But there's just. Nothing.
joker
oh I agree
joker
it's very dumb
Corpse Sniffer
those damn fujoshi
duck bastard
comes in here for a different thing, because that's what I use these plurks for - but I was suddenly reminded of the person I came across who was like
duck bastard
"Why does ANYONE like Eiden as a MC, he's so predatory!!"
duck bastard
Me, staring at him feeling guilty about how he had to lie to Edmond to just regulate his shitshow essence, and how he tries to help Olivine: que
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
...how is he predatory? o_O
joker
I mean Edmond was literally going to die if he didn't do something
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
and yeah if anything, i feel like eiden is one of those rare mc who's actually respectful of his partners
joker
also I got the first story from Edmond's SSR card and the whole "I put a curse on you" thing is basically like an in-joke between them at this point
Calliente
Also, like...are they aware this is a porn game
Calliente
The writers are going to come up with excuses for the sex scenes
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
like, he's dtf and open but only if the other party is also willing. but yeah hello friend? this is a bl porn game?
Calliente
Some of them will be good, some of them will be...serviceable
Calliente
I haven't seen any exceptionally bad ones yet
duck bastard
I feel like it must have something to do with some other intimacy story that, like, I just haven't read yet (see: most of them)
duck bastard
....granted
duck bastard
there's also the part of me that's like
duck bastard
"ah yes"
duck bastard
"a queer man is open about his interest in men, and not afraid of flirting with or pursuing them"
duck bastard
"predatory"
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
again i feel like these people view any non-vanilla gay sex as... inherently bad
Calliente
But like...the MC constantly having sex with other characters on variably flimsy pretexts is what one should expect in a porn game
Calliente
That is. The point???
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
do they even know of other bl game which is even more sexual?
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
staring at nitro citral stuffs...
W(erewolf)ILF
GOD.... yeah like. bud. have you SEEN porn
Cookie Politics
squints
W(erewolf)ILF
the sex scenes in this have been far more consensual than like. The Average Doujin that i've run into
Cookie Politics
dude, the Hunny Pop protag is more predatory from what I have seen
W(erewolf)ILF
oh ABSOLUTELY
duck bastard
....laughs because all I can think of
duck bastard
is that one, like, tumblr post
Cookie Politics
And that game is a puzzle game on Steam
duck bastard
that talked about how yaoi was FETISHISTIC and full of TERRIBLE GAY STEREOTYPES
duck bastard
not unlike the PURE AND GAY-MAN WRITTEN GEICOMI
W(erewolf)ILF
CACKLING
duck bastard
every person who has ever actually read geicomi: what the fuck are you talking about
Calliente
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without telling me you have no idea what you're talking about
Calliente
Like, I'm not familiar with geicomi, so I don't want to make any claims or assumptions on it
Calliente
But I can say that I've seen gay porn drawn by gay men before, at least
Calliente
And most of them have included dicks drawn the width of a fire hose
Cookie Politics
tell me you've only read My Brother's Husband (which the author doesn't even consider to be geicomi) without telling me you've only read My Brother's Husband
duck bastard
the author of which has definitely made some geicomi with, ah yes, porn themes
duck bastard
sometimes including Le Problematique Content
joker
honestly I'm cool with a little dubcon in my purely fictional adult content
joker
I don't want to watch 50 scenes of people meticulously getting consent
Cookie Politics
the Wikipedia article on the genre talks about the rape themes, these folks have no excuse
Calliente
Yeah, like...it's fictional porn
Calliente
You know what my criteria for porn is? That it's hot
hiroc
wasn't there like an online archive of gay stories by gay male authors and it's basically full of Problematic Content
W(erewolf)ILF
RIGHT like... please it's porn it doesn't need to be a thing that would be Good IRL
joker
wait let me get the pic again
Calliente
And even if it's not hot to me, then I can still be like "I can see how this would be hot to other people", and approve of its existence on those grounds because hey, other people deserve porn they're into
joker
https://images.plurk.com/4LALx1Ad6N1TnoVpIOq5QC.png this one
Calliente
(And like...even if I can't see how it would be hot to other people, as long as someone is into it, that justifies its existence)
duck bastard
honesty, like, real talk - Edmond's entire character type is kind of made for that bit of particular kink spice
Calliente
The lovely thing about fictional porn is that there is no real cost to its creation, beyond the creator's time
Calliente
(Which they are either putting toward the project by choice or, perhaps, being compensated for)
joker
oh it for sure is
hiroc
once you see Edmond's character type, you generally can guess which kink he cover
joker
his whole thing is saying no while he goes willingly lol
Calliente
So there's no reason to not just. Make whatever fictional porn you want/other people are into, because there's no downside to its existing!
duck bastard
i know some people were disappointed that he wasn't the cool domineering top that they might have liked with a knight character but
duck bastard
1. i'm glad he exists as a tsun bottom to yakumo's soft top
duck bastard
2. sorry y'all will just have to deal with kuya filling that niche instead
Calliente
Oh is Kuya gonna fill my niche
Cookie Politics
he's going to fill someone's niche
duck bastard
I actually don't know if he does or not, lmao, i literally just finished Ch 6 and don't even have SR Kuya, but his VIBES certainly yell it
duck bastard
and yes i know there was innuendo BUT I HAD TO SAY
Calliente
I have no SSRs that aren't fucking Yakumo
Calliente
Like, I love you sir but please contain your thirst
Calliente
Let me have someone else please, god
Cookie Politics
he's just very eager to please
hiroc
Kuya is a top, but I haven't reach him yet
hiroc
Chapter 6 is kicking my ass
joker
Edmond was exactly what I wanted out of a knight character, personally lol
joker
I'm just happy Eiden is a switch...
Calliente
I appreciate that they're clearly subverting seme/uke personality expectations
hiroc
Yep, tho doesn't stop people from wanting switches
hiroc
so many people are hopeful for White Day Yakumo as a bottom
hiroc
I got him but I haven't unlock the sex scenes yet
Corpse Sniffer
im proud that edmond is a fucking idiot and pissy bottom. literally best character development
Corpse Sniffer
also like aster the one who is going off about sex slaves and shit eiden is just like 'i mean we can ask them nicely too, that's an option'
hiroc
Eiden promoting consensual and happy harem building
joker
it makes Huey a little sus
joker
but Eiden is all about consensual harems
Corpse Sniffer
there are several times when eiden is like 'bruh what the fuck was huey on'
Corpse Sniffer
eidens just building a happy, healthy harem
Corpse Sniffer
also like one of you said i dont mind some dubcon either b/c in the end it is Fictional and sometimes u want 2 see men cry
Corpse Sniffer
but also edmond is just stupid and tsun
duck bastard
....if i'm honest. and this probably reveals something about some of the shit i read. but there were more than a few moments where I read things and was like
duck bastard
"okay and this is when someone gets fucked by monsters, right-"
Corpse Sniffer
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Corpse Sniffer
listen i have read almost all of the nitrochiral stuff
duck bastard
the game keeps talking about monster dick and tree sex pollen, so i'm just like
W(erewolf)ILF
god same james
Corpse Sniffer
maybe it will happen......
Corpse Sniffer
also like does kuya ever pull out the ears and tail or is that only in the bedroom
duck bastard
the thing is, most of the sex scenes are between the actual characters, so i'm j ust like
duck bastard
/cups hands around mouth ONE OF YOU FUCKERS GROW TENTACLES OR SOMETHIN
Corpse Sniffer
(if you're gonna try to make a character problematic that bitch is a kitsune)
Corpse Sniffer
yakumo!! is!!! a snake!!!!
Corpse Sniffer
im sure he could if he tried hard enough
hiroc
god, people are like
hiroc
WHERE IS YAKUMO'S OTHER DICK
hiroc
double snake dicks
duck bastard
the monsterfuckers are having demands
Corpse Sniffer
maybe sharkboy will be wierd
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
asldkasjd LOL
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
and well kuya does fill a special niche /wink wink
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
he fills all the kink play you need as a top
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
though speaking of which, i also do wonder where's the monster sex
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
or at least get them in trouble and they've to be saved
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
then again, we've a snake, a fox, and a wolf 8D
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
and 80% positive the white haired leaked boy is some kinda creature
duck bastard
comes back to this because someone was doing the usual complaining of "just saw one of my non-mlm friends play this and they're so GROSS, it's FETISHIZING" - which, you see more than i'd like while looking through the nu carnival tag????
duck bastard
like damn you guys sure prefer making posts on twitter shitting about your friend playing a dumb gacha game rather than............ talking with them
duck bastard
but then in their criticisms, they went "and it's just a game for cishets because it's only full of twinks"
duck bastard
> James: ..........................there is like one or two twinks in this whole damn series and you don't even get to properly fuck the Primary Twink
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
looks at Quincy
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
like. specifically Quincy
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
I mean imo Aster is the only True Twink but
duck bastard
looks at Eiden's inner dialogue constantly going on about Olivine's build when he first meets him
Corpse Sniffer
/looks at quincy and olivine
Corpse Sniffer
bruh
duck bastard
I'm on the fence about Garu's classification but yeah tbh Aster is the only True Twink
Corpse Sniffer
and edmond himself is too tall
Corpse Sniffer
otherwise he'd classify
Corpse Sniffer
garu is a manlet
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
Garu I feel covers the "just young and cute but not pretty" category
duck bastard
yeah, like.... you have
- Olivine, Quincy, and Morvay
- Edmond and Kuya
- Eiden and Yakumo
- Aster
duck bastard
in terms of, like.... types
cassandra 🔮
also not... only cishets like twinks anyway, I don't-- what???
duck bastard
AT LEAST IN MY OPINION LMAO
Corpse Sniffer
as a twink, i am offended,,,,
duck bastard
eiden and yakumo seem like the most Just Dudes there lmao
duck bastard
meanwhile, edmond and kuya, like. exercise.
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
Yakumo is Pretty
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
would look great in a pencil skirt
Corpse Sniffer
okay but you knwo that one skit of 'i am a twunk, and combination twink hunk' but instead its with like. nu carnival dudes
duck bastard
may i suggest:
they'd all look good in pencil skirts
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
pointed looks at Quincy's thighs
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
some of them won't fit
duck bastard
i mean..... that's the point
duck bastard
:>
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
XD
duck bastard
duck bastard
kuya could probably fulfill some very specific kinks in a pencil skirt
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
I'm just saying, Quincy wouldn't get one one
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
Kuya could fill some very specific kinks in general
duck bastard
this is unrelated to anything, but i laughed
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNveu6gXEAAEAqb?format=jpg&name=900x900
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
PFFT
W(erewolf)ILF
wheezing laughter... i was talking to leah about this and she told me about how once she and a friend saw a vanity plate that said TWINKLET, which presumably was meant to be like... twinkle t, as in toes, but super read as. the tiniest twink
W(erewolf)ILF
anyway that's aster, aster is the twinklet
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
yeah only aster is true twink
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
like, have they seen the other characters?!
𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚍𝚘𝚠𝚗
twinklet oh my gods
joker
guarantee they looked at yakumo and said "yeah he's a bottom" because they have no taste
duck bastard
SLAMS HANDS ON TABLE
duck bastard
NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR MY SOFT TOP
duck bastard
ESPECIALLY SINCE HE'S THE ONLY SSR WHO'S RELIABLY COME HOME TO ME I MEAN WHAT
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
right? i'd thought yakumo's a bottom too but i'm so pleased this game subversive it!!!
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
like, thank you for breaking our misconception and presumptions
✧ 𝚍𝚘𝚕𝚕𝚒𝚎 ✧
soft top!
duck bastard
the natural opposite to strict cold tsundere edmond
duck bastard
it's what we deserve
hiroc
catching up and twinks??
hiroc
I say beside Yakumo and Edmond, Quincy get a fair amount of attention from fandom
hiroc
like browse the tag and you're more likely to see Olivine's tits on average
hiroc
tho Edmond and Yakumo naturally get attention for their character type + event focus right now
duck bastard
yeah that's the funny thing lmao
duck bastard
like besides the event focus
duck bastard
it was all about those tits and nips
hiroc
now that I think about it, did anyone put the guys on the twink-hunk-bear triangle yet
duck bastard
i'm sure it's around, but i haven't seen it in my art trawling yet
duck bastard
which doesn't mean it hasn't been made, because twitter is fucking garbage
Calliente
God, honestly, only a narrow slice of mlm are gonna be into Nu Carnival anyway, because like. Not all mlm like pretty boys, and a lot of mlm are more into like...much harder porn than this, I feel
Calliente
Nu Carnival feels targeted a lot more to the yaoi crowd than, say, the geicomi crowd
hiroc
Yeah, it's deliberately so since the devs are a fujo team
Calliente
So I'm fucking BAFFLED by the expectation that 1) the yaoi game aimed towards the yaoi fandom, which has always had a lot of women and nonbinary people in it, can only be legitimately played by mlm
Calliente
And 2) that mlm necessarily inherently want this type of game, even though it only hits one specific genre of mlm content as it is???
Calliente
Like, sure, some mlm will certainly be into it because you'll find lots of different tastes in the gay male community
Calliente
But the attitude that this game is specifically and only for mlm when it's only one specific genre of mlm content, so it literally does not and cannot have universal mlm appeal, is just...kind of a take
Calliente
Fuck, for the game to be successful for the mlms who do want it, it's great if a broader audience is pouring money into the F2P mlm game
Calliente
I guarantee you, regardless of who is engaging with this game for what reason, the devs appreciate everyone's money equally
Calliente
They do not care why you're playing it, and the more money they get, the more content they can make and the longer the game will last, so please tell me how that is bad for the mlms enjoying the game
Calliente
How is the gay sex game being successful bad for the gay men who desperately need representation and content, please advise
Calliente
Them: UGH how GROSS people who aren't mlm are playing Nu Carnival
Me, taking notes: So you think the devs should make less money and have fewer players?
duck bastard
yeah, like - capitalism sure sucks!!! but if you want to see more queer shit of any kind, more people giving it more money is kind of necessary!!
Calliente
Also, god, like...setting aside EVERYTHING else, this game is clearly made for the audience it is in fact attracting, so these people are having tantrums over a feature, not a bug
Calliente
Pretty sure this is the audience the devs wanted, so if other people don't like the audience being catered to, how about they go to some other game
hiroc
I don't even know what the MLM crowd looks for in their porn games. Or whatever the geicomi crowd looks for
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