Quinneapolis
[tma] I'm definitely coming around to
RobotApocalypse
on the worst thing about season 5
Quinneapolis
that being the endless circular conversations about how space works in hellworld
Quinneapolis
every single episode they have to argue about how much further their destination is and how space doesn't work like that anymore
Quinneapolis
now basira's doing it too
Quinneapolis
semi-related is the repetition of everyone going "now? REALLY?" every time john has to record a statement
Quinneapolis
like yeah you should have a good sense of the frequency of them by now
Quinneapolis
they happen more often in scary places
Quinneapolis
basira joining the party just meant that as soon as martin starts getting used to how things work and stops repeating all these points over and over
Quinneapolis
we have a new person to repeat them for him
RobotApocalypse
yeah it's so fucking irritating to listen to this exact same conversation happen almost every episode
RobotApocalypse
it's a baffling writing decision too because it just makes martin sound like an idiot who can't wrap his head around the simple idea of variable space
Echo
Yeah... I choose to believe it's just a coping mechanism for the, uh. Everything about the season five TMA world.
Echo
He's focusing on the petty thing because it's easier to complain about that than panic about all the other stuff.
RobotApocalypse
if john got trapped in a personal hell torture dimension it would just be having to explain the same simple concepts to martin over and over again
Quinneapolis
here's another take, less story crit and more character opinions
Quinneapolis
Martin?
Quinneapolis
You can do better
Quinneapolis
John is very bad at being your boyfriend
Quinneapolis
he used you as bait to catch a murderer without explaining it, because he knew you wouldn't agree to it if he explained it
Quinneapolis
that's bad relationship activity
RobotApocalypse
lmao yeah. martin can absolutely do better
RobotApocalypse
but hey. straight girls in stories settle for bad love interests all the time, why not gay boys too?
Quinneapolis
or, alternate phrasing: John, be a better boyfriend
Quinneapolis
like Martin can't really go hit up dating sites during the apocalypse
Quinneapolis
you're stuck with each other
Quinneapolis
make it work
RobotApocalypse
i do think he does better over time but it's a hard balance for him because he's sort of...increasingly inhuman in his thinking because of the horrible hell nightmare world and the stakes they're dealing with
RobotApocalypse
while Martin, as his grounding rod to humanity, is extremely human in his thinking, to the point that he cannot wrap his head around some of the stuff they're dealing with now
RobotApocalypse
not that i'm making excuses for him. i think john would be a bad boyfriend even without the nightmare hellworld because he's just kind of an insensitive prick by nature
Quinneapolis
martin's got shit for taste in men and that's okay
kaylin
yeah, Martin had a crush on John back in season 1, even before the "you can live in the archives because Prentiss is actively trying to kill you" incident
kaylin
objectively shit taste in men
Quinneapolis
I still am gonna drag him about it
kaylin
fair!
kaylin
it's definitely a Lonely thing. I remember developing crushes on anyone who was remotely nice to me all through elementary school and junior high
RobotApocalypse
oh i didn't even put that together but you're super right, it's 100% a Lonely thing
kaylin
lmao, TMA has given me such valuable insight into my own fears/anxieties that I'm kinda mad it didn't exist earlier
Lightning Bolt
" I remember developing crushes on anyone who was remotely nice to me all through elementary school and junior high" sweats