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→ magic mechanics questions, for anyone who might wanna weigh in
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1 - I don't see many specifics in there and I think what I did find suggested they were keeping it loosey goosey, but in terms of what magic characters can learn outside of their horizon powers, what's the deal with that
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is there a specific type, limit, training timeframe you guys are using, or am I misreading and horizon powers is all they get?
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2 - do we get to just get wild af with the aesthetic descriptions of horizon powers, can I just get fuckin extra with the purple prose, critrole style
Haunted Boobs
A lot of people draw inspiration from D&D spells! For both the Horizon stuff and learning Abraxas style magic. My character has been learning Academic Magic since the start, and I've been drawing inspiration from first level D&D spells.
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so generally the timeframe is what you make of it (i.e. how experienced is your character?) but the idea is to focus on mastering one or two spells. i think magic is not supposed to be easy to pick up w/o practice (in typical ~training montage over a few months~ kinda deal)
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being in the free cities there's prob a bit fewer resources for your character since they don't like magic there BUT i think he can still find books or a mage on the down low or just ask one of the summoned to teach
Haunted Boobs
Yeah, like Nadine has been at it for about half a year now, and she can do a handful of small things proficiently. Because she's never used magic before, it doesn't come natural.
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i think you can also have characters teach your character their own magic? i gotta double check but like...i believe geralt would be able to show dean witcher signs, for ex.
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ok it only says "there will be opportunities" so idk if that's just something we gotta wait for to happen before we can do it or not, but it sounds like its somewhere out there on the horizon
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Gotcha, okay cool. That makes sense. My plan for Dean has been to mostly hold off for a while because he wouldn't really "get" it, not because he wouldn't be capable but rather like a mental block holding him back. Once he finally demonstrates aptitude I was thinking about playing it like a real... emotion-based wildmagic type deal, I don't think he'd like
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try and go down that refined educated arcane magic path but he'd definitely be like the AGGRESSIVE TEMPER FLAMETHROWER type
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oh shit witcher signs would be fucking awesome
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perfect for him, honestly, that in the moment battle magic type shit
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but he's hedging on about two months in game now so I've been considering working something in sometime in the next couple weeks.
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i think after figuring out his horizon power with geralt he'll make an actual effort to figure out how to do something
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since he'll know he can, and it'll help with hunting
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yeah i actually don't know how easy/hard it is to learn what variety of magic in the free cities. they're supposed to be suspicious of a lot of it so it might be worth hitting up the mods to ask what's most available for dean? I PERSONALLY haven't looked into this a lot because i just
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have been having geralt improving his signs minimally
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geralt be already known a little
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yeah
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I think he might be able to hit up Cas for some beginner concept things. Cas would take to magic 200000% faster than him I bet. Wuzzafuzzle correct me if i am wrong
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BUT i love the idea of him learning a couple of useful things for a hunt, if not necessarily signs. i might ask abt teaching your own magic thing bc i like the idea of...dean using signs lmao
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I REALLY LOVE THAT
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I CAN'T LIE
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I don't know why I'm having an emotion over geralt teaching him witcher signs but I am
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tbh it didn't occur to me until this very moment and i don't know why bc it's so good
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it really is like. the type of shit he'd learn.
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he would super struggle with refined shit, arcane type booky magic but
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hunting spells??
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now that would be in his wheelhouse. i think he'd take to that like a fish in water.
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I'll definitely ask about it then
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I cannot see him ever being a proper wizard doing any complex divination or necromancy or whatever but witcher shit just Feels Right immediately
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which
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as a disclaimer
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I know nothing about except the neat effects in the show that I saw
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"oo cool shieldy thing"
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honestly that's all it is. they're specifically designed to be the simplest form of magic so that even the Witchers can use them and it only requires some concentration and a specific gesture
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but Haunted Boobs : yeah I vibe this. I'm sticking with d&d inspired stuff for his horizon powers, and same hat on anything refined and controlled not coming naturally. I'll probably keep 99% of whatever he does learn wild magic-y or battle-y. Take it pretty slow.
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okay then yes that's perfect for him
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they seemed very
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geralt trying to tell Dean the name of the signs and Dean just going "yes shield thingy"
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guttural is not the right word wtf brain
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primal??
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which suits him
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oh fuck lmao you know he would
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man i just. maybe it's giving me a feeling because of that potential brother dynamic thing or something. just. geralt making him a witcher fam.
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also tangentially related but I was reminded dean literally did this to him lmao https://images.plurk.com/2aZXvE81uHnhF2wz7if5Rl.jpg
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HAHAHAHAHHA
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perfect
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But god. Yes. Give me that Witcher bro dynamic
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okay I feel like I vibe this concept. potential fite witcher sign training, and other than that some real sloppy shit that honestly he probably can't do all that well or consistently until he's in an emotionally intense situation at which point ya boi explodes his feelings into wild magic
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does geralt pick up on like... the vibe behind magic? like can he tell if it's demonic vs celestial or
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whatever
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is that even a thing in witcherland
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nope. There's no such thing in his world, chaos is chaos. It's just what you do with it
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aight cool. mostly curious because of my 'make dean angel-y' plan for his horizon powers
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do they have a hell, or hell-equivalent? i know they have demons and there's that whole fucked up demon realm
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or whatever that was
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but that seemed more purgatory-adjacent from what i can remember
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They have the concept of it in the sense that that's what common folk call "evil dimensions where demons potentially lurk." But in actuality the only "demon" which is confirmed in s2 are other entities from the other spheres (like voleth meir is a dark elf of the wild hunt, not actually a demon-demon in the sense of being a species)
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they just call things demons because most people don't actually understand this or know it
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alright, add to our list: show geralt hell
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LOL
Haunted Boobs
I love playing with the idea of characters struggling a little to learn an entirely new skill. And there's a fun variety of magic here to play around with and figure out what suits your character. Like Nadine is doing Academic Magic because she's a teacher and having set spells with set outcomes is something she understands.
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lmao
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oh shit yeah academic magic sounds perfect for her then. and I 10/10 agree on the struggling to pick up a new skill thing. I'm about that slow-burn, and about tailoring aptitude based on what they're already naturally inclined toward
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Yeah it's super interesting when Geralt runs up into shows with that kind of lore? Because it conceptually doesn't track for him
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he'll give him the rundown sometime
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The idea that there's "good" and "evil" places, he's just like. They're dimensions and some of them are clearly shittier than others. Maybe we don't hang out here
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sry 2 say they're generally not optional
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rip
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one day he'll offhandedly be like yeah castiel is what people would call a demon? He possesses bodies and he's from another plane of existence
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dean like
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u know what
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honestly
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pretty close
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LOL
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different home terf, different eye color, but if u think about it angels are kind of just super saiyan demons
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another thing i'm thinking is like in terms of dedication to learning, dean would get frustrated with arcane/academic type magic and wouldn't feel compelled to put as much effort into it whereas battle-type witcher-adjacent shit he would straight up drive himself into the ground trying to learn
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like buddy maybe u got some unresolved issues and you should take a break levels
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Look it's fine why go to therapy when you can make cool shields
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exACTLY
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this guy gets it
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also imagining smash cut to dean and geralt looking up at something broken that should not be broken and just. Geralt sighs
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lmao like a stained glass window or some shit?
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Pretty much
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dean just
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"...you think anyone's gonna notice?"
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https://images.plurk.com/4RRXUy3qM5egQ8LpRes11q.png

YEAH I THINK THEY MIGHT NOTICE
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also a minor feeling over the thought of him performing like 60% better in a situation where somebody's in danger and he needs to protect them
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i think he does stuff better when he's not thinking about it, idk if that makes any sense but when it's pure reactionary intuitiony clutch impulse gotta save the fam type shit he's On It
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it makes sense, good shit tbh
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thank ya'll for ur input i feel much more confident about my trajectory a+
𝕞𝕣. 𝕡𝕠𝕠𝕝.
for a separate experience I had jaskier learn one spell (someone taught him in the first event how to make illusionary birds) and I branched his skills based on literally this one spell, so over time he just got better at it practicing over the months until the birds became... actual birds he could summon and maintain
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i love that
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which the mods have said is cool it's gotten stronger to that point just bc he's been practicing it so long
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jaskier just like. imma get reAL FUCKIN GOOD AT BIRDS
𝕞𝕣. 𝕡𝕠𝕠𝕝.
I MEAN, BASICALLY
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his plan was to use them for show effects when he performs but then [season 2 things happened where birds became an important symbol for him] so it all worked out really well
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i love that, that's wonderful
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ʀᴏʙᴇʀᴛ ᴍᴀʀʟᴇʏ
Ahh I love this
ʀᴏʙᴇʀᴛ ᴍᴀʀʟᴇʏ
access to Academic Magic resources is partly why I wanna get Bones to Thorne, bc that's the kind of learning he's more comfortable with
space dragons
ohhh are you joining us in Abrax?
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oh wait aren't you already in, and just asking bc you haven't leveled up yet
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I was like wait when did Dean get here I thought he was in
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YEAH IM IN I have been a couple months I just haven't done anything with the magic stuff until now!
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