Vehrec
Every time I hear the story of United Airlines Flight 173, I just can't believe it
Vehrec
how do you get so fixated on if your landing gear is down that you forget to check how much fuel you have left
Vehrec
though, it's a classic example of 'subtle hints do not work, strong hints do not work.'
Vehrec
it's hard to believe that the other two guys in the cockpit never said 'Captain, we're very low on fuel and we need to land, gear or no gear'.
Princess Emily
idk what this is about but it sounds p yikes
ShootingXC
bad crm is bad
Vehrec
so this was back in the 1970s
Vehrec
and the captain of the flight was a guy who was a WW2 vet
Vehrec
tens of thousand of hours of flight experience.
Vehrec
and when the landing gear light for the nose-gear doesn't go down, he flies the plane in a circle for almost an hour
Vehrec
trying to make sure that he's got every possible hole covered in the planning for a possible crash landing
Vehrec
even calling the flight attendants into the cockpit to tell them what doors to be at.
Vehrec
Until he tells the Flight engineer to prepare to circle for another 15 minutes and...
Vehrec
`
CAM-3 Fifteen minutes? XXX

CAM-1 Yeah, give us three or four thousand pounds
on top of zero fuel weight

CAM-3 Not enough`
Vehrec
your flight engineer is telling you you don't have enough fuel!
Vehrec
but you ignore that guy!
Rama
As someone who works in IT incident resolution
Rama
I can 100% believe every part of this story
Vehrec
the co-pilot and flight engineer both knew about the fuel shortage
Vehrec
but they weren't confident enough to say "we're running out of fuel and need to land NOW"
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