duck bastard
[the stupid queerphobic ass shit people say on the internet] stares dead eyed into the distance. today's stupid ass thing which doesn't need to be a thing: people frothing at the mouth at this
https://images.plurk.com/5sZX3RMIb8XegT74CWFU1d.jpg
duck bastard
apparently it's "fetishizing" and "homophobic" because.... reasons
duck bastard
despite the author being mlm himself
duck bastard
there is just no god damn winning with people
duck bastard
going "this made me homophobic" is apparently the latest internet ~~joke~~ for some reason, but considering the creator is being sent death threats for this, it's sounding less like a joke
duck bastard
now, there might be actual problems with the author - primarily racist slurs - but it's kind of getting drowned out by all the blatant queerphobia.
七8九!
i don't get it
duck bastard
I don't either, And Yet
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
don't you know, only a very specific, overly serious type of mlm content is allowed. oh, and nothing that hints at the dreadful genre of yaoi. /sarcasm
duck bastard
but you see, if it's too serious, then you're just burying the gays, and why don't you want gay people to be happy, pash???????????
duck bastard
and god forbid that serious content not be pure as the driven snow
duck bastard
OKAY found out how some idiots think it's fetishizing
duck bastard
Its fetishizing because it infantilizes the "uke" and portrays the gay relationship in a decimating way that has nothing to do w reality and is actually bad rep for the mlms
duck bastard
wanking gesture
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
it's very telling these people want content made by actual mlm, but they want a very spefic type. (like mlm content made just for them is pretty fetishistic, just in a different way)
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
it's almost like you're only allowed to be into that nasty stuff if it's in a certain package. oh, and show no softness at all.
duck bastard
also And it doesnt matter if the author is gay because this content is obviously catered to women who like yaoi
duck bastard
wanking gesture intensifies
七8九!
what if the pink uwu one is actually the seme
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
what do these people actually want from mlm authors?
MR SEPHIROTH
portrays the gay relationship in a decimating way.... ??? I'm
MR SEPHIROTH
this is a picture of one person being excited about another person giving them hot chocolate
duck bastard
going "owo" is the most homophobic thing you can say, you see
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
listen, I personally do have issues in showing femme characters in a weaker, more 'cutesy' light. but like there's a whole ass weird hatred of femme leaning people showing any sort of 'soft' vibe and like...
MR SEPHIROTH
emoji are now homophobic I see...
duck bastard
watches a bunch of lil homophobes go "gay people don't aaaaact like this" and various other gays go "so, jokes on you"
Gayple
Isn't the guy in pink like. super-preppy?
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
okay while I haven't read this webtoon in a while
Gayple
like I think the whole webcomic is "a goth, a jock, a prep, and a nerd date each other
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
1. pink guy's name is literally Prep afaik
2. yeah it's poly
Gayple
yeah that guy isn't even stereotypically girly, he's an airhead IIRC
veth
I have to know what "in a decimating way" means
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
I think Prep is the himbo of the relationship
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
there's also like a weird subset of people that hate poly in this too.
Sunny~
what is the problem? i've seen owo used before like i don't get it these people are so confusing
veth
because I doubt they kill off one in every ten gay characters
MR SEPHIROTH
I've been trying to figure that out myself
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
the whole thing, except for Goth obviously, is very soft and pastel in general
MR SEPHIROTH
do they just have a blowout fight once every 10 days...
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
like
duck bastard
"The characters have no personality aside from tropes, so it's FETISHIZING" that is not how that word works
duck bastard
sometimes. stories. can just be mindless dumb bullshit. and that's fine.
duck bastard
seriously, it sounds like there could be Actual problems with the creator (again, the RACISM), but it's masked up by all these homophobic little shitstains
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
why do y'all hate anything soft?
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
because if it's soft and good and pure it's fetishizing
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
but if it's harsh and grim and brutal it's also fetishizing
Sunny~
i'm so tired of seeing that word damned if you do damned if you don't
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
it's almost like they can't make up their minds
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
like call out the author for being a racist pos, not for the fact their comic is just cute bs.
Sunny~
gritty and brutal = bad, soft and pastel = bad just what do they even want at this point? can't used tropes cause it's bad, can't use plot lines cause that's bad, can't use themes cause bad at this point I'm like shut up no one cares
veth
I ""love"" that they've internalized that all gay content must be Bad Somehow
Sunny~
but then in the same breath will go "how come there's no gay content?"
duck bastard
this is so much the gay stereotype lmao even the clothing of the blonde boy
duck bastard
that's what a prep stereotype looks like, you dipshit
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
me: Do whatever the fuck you want bc these people really don't know what they want in their gay content. But are more than happy to condemn it.
Sunny~
tmw no one wants to use google just for a moral argument but I'm sure watched Game of Thrones or a mainstream show cause we all know the representation there is accurate and good
Gayple
It feels like they don't read the webtoon
Sunny~
or will scream that Marvel is queerbaiting on their show
Sunny~
i'm pretty sure they don't and have to find another moral argument to get into over checks notes fetishizing gay characters by using tropes
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
we know why they don't really codemn mainstream stuff straight men like
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
they don't actually want that smoke, and they know it
Sunny~
Calliente
You know, I think 'please touch grass' is a fairly trivializing sentiment and I rarely approve of its usage, but holy shit these people need to touch grass
Calliente
Like, imagine thinking the queer community has so few problems that you feel you have to invent some
Calliente
This is. One panel. Of a comic. That is harmless???
Calliente
I was literally staring at it going "what on god's green earth can be controversial about this", and even with the explanation I still have no answer
Calliente
That explanation is word salad
Calliente
Like, damn, Josh, some of us have real problems
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
honestly, the more you actually try to live your life, the less concern you will get for a comic.
Apophyllite
Nothing will ever be good enough for these people. They freaking exhaust me
Cookie Politics
what's funny is, prep is a bit of a gym rat, so they're literally calling the character "effeminate" because of pastel colored cloths
Cookie Politics
The ones who are into "girly" things are actually nerd and jock, they're both into kpop dancing
Cookie Politics
also, re the racism, I'm not in a good position to say what is or is not racist, but it's worth noting that the offending behavior happened when the artist was a teen, and they have since said that it was wrong
Cookie Politics
you can believe them or not, but this isn't exactly someone currently engaging in being racist against people
Cookie Politics
And I'd much rather deal with someone who fucked up a bit during an edgy teen phase and apologized then people currently actively looking for excuses to demonize minority groups
duck bastard
it's funny, because i was just reading about that and learned that too
duck bastard
good job, internet, you worthless pile of trash
duck bastard
in other news, I love this comment:
duck bastard
you can immediately tell from posts like this whether someone had gay friends irl in high school. These are dead ringers for my acquaintance who was in a shitty emo band and my friend who stanned Apple's terrible mid-00s computers to the death
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
it's very, very weird how they consider the 'girly' one the one that wears pastel colors and AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME HE'S A TRADITONAL UKE. tell me you got like a.... actually more 'straight woman' idea of a gay man than any yaoi fangirl without telling me, and I mean that shit.
Calliente
God, I didn't even know people used the words seme and uke anymore, although to be fair all my mlm fictional engagement has been RP and fanfic for years now
Calliente
Maybe those terms are still relevant in the BL doujin world
Calliente
My own impression was that those terms kind of calmed down in their usage in the west with the use of ~kawaii~ Japanese that was popular when I was a teenager
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
personally, both terms have enough baggage on them that I want the terms retired.
Calliente
I'd certainly be fine with their being retired in casual western use
Calliente
But since they're Japanese terms and I'm not Japanese, I've got no horse in the race of whether they should be retired in their country of origin for the purposes and in the contexts the terms originally served
Cookie Politics
oh, and for those concerned about the "racism", this is the offending tweet, from 2013, when the artist would have been around 15
Cookie Politics
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJPojmMWYAEDkrr?format=jpg&name=900x900
duck bastard
> A: People can't even own up to what they did, apologize, and work to be better, because you assholes will still go after them anyway
> B, one of those assholes: them making a whole nsfw comic of underage BTS members isn't a WHOOPSIE moment
(james note: comic made when artist was also underage)
duck bastard
> A: So what do you want them to do about it if owning up to it, apologizing, and doing better isn't enough?
> B: they shouldn't have a platform
duck bastard
squirt bottles the shit out of B
duck bastard
stupid teen bullshit isn't an excuse for them to be exiled to some island you dipshit
Cookie Politics
oh no, a teenager was horny over celebrities, the absolute horror
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
honestly, some of these people just want the power of ruining other people. it's time for us to be honest about that.
duck bastard
mhm
Sunny~
they get to be that middle/high school bully and it's irritating
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
being a actual adult is accepting that you can't take out your bullying trauma out on other people... for ANY reason.
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