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[fandomentalists/doxxing] pinches bridge of nose
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so the latest (well, ongoing, and having escalated) shitshow concerns one iamlunasol - i've mentioned her before with fandies stalking her at cons and being overall little abusive creeps for a nonstop eight months
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which all started because she got annoyed at the over the top nonsensical kaeluc hate (i'm not even sure if she was even in the fandom at the time), so she made a joke spite pin of them with "~brotherfuckers~" written on it
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classy? no. but it's just one dumb joke pin, who tf cares in the end, tbh. it's shipping.
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EXCEPT A LOT OF SHITTY LITTLE ABUSERS SURE DO so see: nonstop eight months harassment campaign
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with luna having gone quiet for a few months, that having done nothing, so now she's just gone full middle finger by drawing all sorts of whatever shit she likes, and liberal use of blocking programs
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obviously, her not cowering in fear because of these little abusers, and in fact still being decently successful has not made the mob happy.
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and so, just the other day or so. she got doxed.
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She got to learn about this because some fuckhead sent pizza to her house (an instance that was then quickly replicated that same night)
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Now. any person who is a decent piece of existence understands this is horrific.
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turns out that's something which may be in short supply, because you have way too many fuckjacks going "IT'S JUST PIIIIIIIIIZZZAAAAA, GOD, YOU'RE ACTING LIKE THEY'RE ATTACKING YOU!!!"
Gayple
I bet these bullies would not like being doxxed
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anyway, have you ever wanted to kick someone into a freezing pool in the middle of winter
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oh, yeah, tons of people have pointed it out - "if it's really not a big deal, why don't you post your own address? I'll send you pizza"
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funnily enough, no one has decided to do that
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i wonder why
Sunny~
i hope she gets a chance to take legal action on the person who doxxed her
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ever since this entire shitshow started, she's been in regular contact with the police, and updated them with the constant material these scumbags provide her
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so she's definitely working on it and, tbh, I'll contribute to the legal fund
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it's very clear that until these wannabe abusers get some serious consequences, they won't learn
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
oh my gods
Sunny~
i'll help too cause it looks like they want to fuck around then need to find out
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ANYWAY part of what i made this plurk - besides venting about the obviously fucked up shit happening - is because shoutout to this two faced mealy mouthed little shitwaffle
Corpse Sniffer
oh yeah I saw someone s plurk on it they were threatening with like harm too
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because Luna has been very vocal about all the harassment she's been getting, and how this kind of thing just opens up a can of worms that will inevitably backfire on fandies
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Luna: Vigilante justice is tragedy waiting to happen. You can only play fast and loose for so long before innocent people get hurt. Regardless of how you feel about me, this kind of continued behavior does and will cause harm to innocent people.
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Mealy Mouthed Cockbrain, Take 1:
i hate when people say this. vigilante justice is the only sort of justice we have, and as a WHITE WOMAN, you have absolutely no place to comment on what justice is. considering youre american this is WILDLY disturbing.
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.....except in the next breath
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Mealy Mouthed Cockbrain, Take 2:
all they FUCKING DID WAS SEND A PIZZA TO YOUR HOUSE. that shit happens all the time, and as someone who works minimum wage, its shit BUT NOBODY CARES UNLESS ITS A SMALL BUSINESS. get a fucking grip, you are literally white.
duck bastard
it's VIGILANTE JUSTICE and SUPER IMPORTANT u gaiz, but, also, UGH IT'S NOT IMPORTANT THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
like her being white changes that this is a actual fucking crime fuckwits
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these little abusive idiots are DESPERATE to use her being white as, like. the only kind of discrimination that ever exists in the world
hiroc
"it's only pizza" and no one seems to realise the "how" part, or they're ignoring it
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misogyny? queerphobia? literally anything else in this complicated fucked up world?
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nah that don't exist
januki
Ugh this is such a nightmare over absolutely nothing
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it's SO over fucking nothing, but their video game characters are more important than real living human beings
Corpse Sniffer
all this over a gd mistranslation in a video game or whatever over anime boys can they just not see how insane they are
Corpse Sniffer
even in my shitty teenage years I never threatened to send a bomb to someone
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they're not insane, they're just abusive assholes
hiroc
and "it's just pizza" makes me annoyed because there's a literal supply chain issue in my city with ingredients like MEAT
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also, like
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it's not just pizza, it's intimidation
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tons of people pointed out that pizza delivery guys don't get paid shit
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
sometimes I almost feel sorry for these jackasses, because there is a whole Thing where people who lack power will find and lash out at whoever or whatever they can to make themselves feel less powerless
Corpse Sniffer
I can't imagine what it feels like to be that delivery person
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
and like. powerlessness sucks. I get it
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your boss is gonna yell at you. your job relies on tips. you ain't gettin' that gas money back.
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it's fucking covid.
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
however
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
once we start hitting the "actual fucking crimes" that ain't cutting it
Sunny~
never too late to let them know how serious things can be
☽ ʀᴏsᴇ ᴋɪɴɢ
And all this because of the crime of fictional shipping...
Sunny~
like it boggles my mind how they're "defending" rights to characters that don't exist it's irritating
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it's not even that they're defending the rights of ficitional characters, it's that they are saying that the fiction a person likes is a testament to their character and sense of morality
𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘦
and that they can then harass and bully and abuse anyone who doesn't match up to their idea of Right and Wrong
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all the while not even realizing that they are doing the actual scum's jobs for them
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There was a FOFF thread that posited that one part of this rising up as it did, in combination with how helpless kids feel these days and how they claw for what power they can to feel like they can do something, is because this generation grew up with web 2.0, social media, and everything on the same site, designed to spread.
Sunny~
yep i have given many of these talks at my job where we have to explain this to them
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Not just because everything spreads further than it ever did before, but because they were seeing everything all at once. Fanart, horrible news story, silly meme, crowdfunding plea, fanfic link.
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So we expect them to keep reality and fantasy separate, but they've grown up with all of it together.
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It's no wonder they read an article about the effects of media representation and then take it to the extreme to say that fanwork should reflect a perfect, pure world -- they've never separated these things, and they think because we have, we're delusional or making excuses.
☽ ʀᴏsᴇ ᴋɪɴɢ
God damn it's more deep seated than I thought....
Sunny~
we give a lot of talks about reality and fantasy and internet safety and how cyberbullying still counts as bullying it doesn't make me any less frustrated to see these things online all the time over fiction but we do have to give these talks a lot
Calliente
I feel like that ignores the fact that there are people of all ages out there who are perfectly well aware that real people and fictional people are Not The Same
Dragons Dragons
That's true, but the anti wave is mostly composed of Gen Z. Of course not everyone is the same and everyone has different experiences.
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also as a note: we know for a fact that it's not just pizza. there are death threats (and apparently rape threats as well but I haven't seen caps of those yet)
https://images.plurk.com/6jsOBq4RYoUTP1XBrvSe32.jpg
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
holy fuck
Sunny~
wtf
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
all of this over fictional incest???
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and - gasp - BNHA smut
Gayple
oh nice, we have a name we can report
Calliente
I personally feel like it's really just a product of bullying, at its core. Like, people who aren't looking for acceptable targets to lash out at aren't going to do this, regardless of the environment they grew up in.
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fictional incest for characters who aren't even related, which is really the icing on the cake of this absolute nonsense
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like i'm sure there tons of reasons Why they think this is acceptable behavior when it's absolutely horrific, but.... when are they going to realize how terrible this is
💫𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑟𝑜𝑎𝑐ℎ𝑒𝑑
there has to be a point where they realize this isn't okay, right
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when their parents get called by the police or a lawyer, is what I'm hoping for
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mostly the lawyer
Calliente
Not really. They've fully disconnected from the idea that people who do things they don't like are, in fact, people
Calliente
Therefore, anything is fair game because people they disagree with don't actually have rights
Sunny~
well parents don't like the word law suit or being told they're gonna be sued over something online we've had to do it a few times this year and those parents were not happy
januki
Don't let any of these kids find out about DWRP
januki
They'll faint
januki
Just one stroll through bakerstreet
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disgusting
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reports!!
Dragons Dragons
yeah, i think antis are probably the biggest reason dwrp went from advertising in fandom communities to "please do not perceive us"
Gayple
yeah I think so too
Gayple
there's been a few attempts at antis coming in but they were unanimously told "go away"
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Didn't know that, but good
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
I keep on saying DWRP needs new blood, but if it keeps these fucks from this hobby I love, then fine,
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
I am not explaining myself or the questionable shit I like to a hopped up 13-22 year old that BADLY needs perspective in their lives.
ᴅɪꜱꜱᴏʟᴠᴇᴅ ɢɪʀʟ
https://images.plurk.com/4f00XD2IS5Y8hXGIMxI64d.jpg
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the person i linked earlier just went private. looks like they fucked around a little too much. funny how that works.
nɑnɑmin
valen 🦠 on Twitter the tweet that got reported for having a bomb threat.
nɑnɑmin
that’s a wayback machine link and I highly recommend using the site to archive things before reporting them, especially anything that might require legal intervention.
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Jesus fuck these people are fucked up. How can they say this shit and think it’s ok?
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mob mentality, abuser mentality, I'm sure we could think of all sorts of reasons
papermint tiger
good lord, pizza is not ever 'just pizza'
papermint tiger
even aside from all the very good points you brought up, i know for a fact sending someone a pizza is the first step in sending them something else
papermint tiger
like a swat team or, yeah, a bomb
papermint tiger
this is horrifying wtf
hiroc
people going "where would a minor get a bomb" in QRTs, as if the internet is a massive search engine of a database
papermint tiger
death threats are death threats, whether or not you can actually follow through on them
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
like you can't make a bomb with a pressure cooker pretty easily
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"lmaoooo WHERE would this minor get a BOMB" you think the fbi cares about details
Cookie Politics
idk, probably the same place they get guns and bombs when they attack schools
Cookie Politics
you know, that thing that's been happening regularly in public schools for decades, because fuck gun regulations or safety
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So some more grumbling that will be followed by some great news
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but one of the excuses that these revolting little creeps is "but she purposefully sexually harassed a minor!!!"
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What actually happened: some dipshit kept their age hidden, went to an account that blatantly said "18+", ignored the "minors do not interact", went onto a picture of explicit sex, and started making stupid shit ass comments about the orgasm expressions in that picture
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which lead to lunasol going "maybe when you grow up and actually get fucked, you'll learn about expressions like those"
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Was that a good response? No. I'm not saying it was.
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but there was no way she could have known she was talking to some little asshole, and, despite what everyone says, telling some douchebag to "grow up" doesn't mean you actually think they are a minor or whatever
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and frankly, I am going to be at least a little forgiving of a harassment victim lashing out at someone
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especially since, like.... I'm pretty sure this happened RIGHT after she was repeatedly stalked and filmed at cons
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Not a good response, but an understandable one
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more understandable than being a little creep that keeps trying to talk about sex with someone who doesn't want to talk about sex with you
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and them being a minor doesn't change that
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But nuance is dead, so
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BUT IN BETTER NEWS she ran a kickstarter just earlier today - goal of $500 - and it's already met that multiple times over
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over 8k now
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it's for enamel pins with the subject of, like. the horny side of fandom lmao (especially omegaverse) , so not for everyone, but there is an italicized "oh" pin that nails the vibe exquisitely
papermint tiger
....yeah no this is totally the minor's fault, given that context
Cookie Politics
as terrible as it feels to say, this is probably due in part to the harassment campaign, because Twitter boosts tweets based on engagement, and hate comments and hate retweets count as engagement, and these shits have been comment bombing literally anything she posts
Cookie Politics
including, but not limited to, a skating video
Cookie Politics
so, boosted engagement on perfectly normal tweets means more normal ass people see the tweets, see the normal ass art, and decide to support the artist
Cookie Politics
(and horny fans get mighty offended when people go after their horny art)
nɑnɑmin
the number of times I've seen someone lie about their age and change it in order to "gotcha" someone is ridiculous.
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