beachcryptid
I did the are you Feanorian/Nolofinwean/Arafinwean quiz and I don't think anyone is surprised by my result https://images.plurk.com/3lQz4Wy2GjgfIoEGSd4Adm.png
delatour
I got Arafinwean, which is... kind of bewildering?
beachcryptid
lol how XD
delatour
I don't know, did I get this by saying no to the Fingon/Curufin whatever the heck the kink was fic?
delatour
Taking the neutral option on the remarriage issue for lack of my real opinion being there?
beachcryptid
who knows!
PirateTaiga
I got Nolofinwean... and I am
PirateTaiga
like ok? it's.... fine? but still head scratcher a bit.
PirateTaiga
like I had wtf reaction to half of the questions
beachcryptid
XD me too
PirateTaiga
that I didn't get Feanorian is enough a mystery for me
beachcryptid
XD same
ʝєss
I also got Nolofinwean and am 0% surprised
ʝєss
Asking for science, what did everyone put as the most justified kinslaying?
delatour
My serious answer is the first, but I actually put the second as reader response. Down with thingol and all his works, who cares if he happens to be dead
ʝєss
I put the second for my serious answer, because the first one was murdering and stealing stuff that ain’t yours, but the second one the stuff is actually yours arguably
delatour
I figure with Alqualonde they may genuinely not have understood how bad it was going to be going in
ʝєss
I figured committing the first ever elf-elf murder removes the justification
delatour
Fair
{TharBG}
lol I got Nolofinwean
delatour
{TharBG} : do you feel suitably represented?
{TharBG}
I mean it's accurate
beachcryptid
ʝєss : same I put down second as reader response
beachcryptid
ʝєss
https://images.plurk.com/2FvC96oGTXXBaC7uz9T1sG.jpg
Look is there any question that Fingolfin is dad energy?
ʝєss
So Feanorian, Nolofinwean, and Arafinwean sides apparently all agree that the 2nd kinslaying being the most justified? Huh
delatour
I would be deeply curious about whether anyone could come up with a justification of it being the third. Just for arguments sake
ʝєss
I think I would rank the third as 2nd worst, but barely better than the first. Like, the stuff is still arguably yours and you did ask for it back first, but now you’re attacking refugees which is pretty low.
ʝєss
But you still didn’t just invent mass murder sooo
ʝєss
also, I would like to postulate the possibility that if the feanorians hadn’t attacked Sirion that something even worse could have happened, because tldr it doesn’t matter if you think the Silm is some weird magical protection, you’re wrong and it’s going to kill you
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Some of these questions are....
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Also this is the MOST CURSED THING I've ever read
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
https://images.plurk.com/12e5gfZ4hccXTDZg2TcklL.jpg
delatour
they may be asking about finweans, but whoever wrote those fic ideas is clearly of the spawn of morgoth
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
https://images.plurk.com/1gVKA1uYZ4JyQoP6Adcf2h.jpg eyyyy
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
look some of them I was like "I would definitely read this, but I acknowledge I am Weird."
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Also ABO is not really my cup of tea at all but the idea that Luthien would be Omega is just False
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
I feel like the third kinslaying is by far the stupidest on all sides
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Attacking a bunch of refugees is terrible morally and also pointless.
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
By the same token if you're running a refugee city and have a shiny rock that has a cursed oath attached to it AND is the focused target of both of your main "enemies" when you could give it up and absolutely placate ONE of them and GAIN a staunch ally against your second, more terrible enemy, and instead choose to hold onto it, you're fucking stupid.
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
I don't think it's a morally correct or incorrect choice either way to keep the rock or give it up, but tactically it's moronic
ʝєss
^exaaaactly. Your options are die horribly or become a slave to the most evil being in the universe. Neither are worth it
ʝєss
Also, why is contemporary fandom so obsessed with silmarils in asses? Like...just why?
delatour
It's your daily does of blasphemy while also getting to make fun of feanor
delatour
/shrug/ best guess
236 bees
i uh. well i guess mae perhaps started off as being a little more chill about it but also kind of
236 bees
wat
236 bees
no??
236 bees
he didn't want to burn the boats is about the best you can say for the guy as far as being chill goes and that is NOT REALLY VERY MUCH
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Yeah that one is just..... y'all could be doing so much more creative thoughts here
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Also who would want that up ur butt anyways? That seems like a terrible idea
236 bees
XD i also got feanorian but chill about it
236 bees
not 100% sure how but okay i guess
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Maedhros has excellent PR is how he gets the chill monicker
ʝєss
Some long suffering healer, upon hearing someone “slipped and fell” on a silmaril:
ʝєss
A better question would have been “since Maglor chucked his silmaril into the ocean, would Maedhros (had he been alive) have been obligated to kill him?”
beachcryptid
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Y'all are evil
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Because y'all are mean
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
I don't trust you to not be evil with this at all
beachcryptid
(LOL)
beachcryptid
I mean that is the phrasing right "afar casteth" which is exactly what mags did
236 bees
honestly i'd say yes
236 bees
as someone who plays mae
236 bees
he may or may not follow up immediately by killing himself but it would be half 'can't doom my family by giving up on the oath even if this is them' and half 'this is for his own good we're both too far gone at this point it's a mercy kill'
236 bees
maglor might be able to fasttalk his way into convincing him he didn't violate it tho because he wouldn't really want to but i do think he certainly would have
236 bees
he does a lot of deeply unreasonable things in the name of a larger goal
ʝєss
beachcryptid
(LOL)
ʝєss
Or was the Oath marked “fulfilled” the moment the silmarils were recovered by the two brothers and anything after that irrelevant?
beachcryptid
I mean I think you could argue it was fulfilled FOR THEM, but does it count for the ones who are dead, ALSO does the oath being fulfilled require all three or is two enough
beachcryptid
Feanor's Oath has a lotta loopholes man
delatour
flight of the noldoli suggests that the oath has not yet ended, but that's poetry and who knows if the author is correct
ʝєss
Does that constitute near proof of Maglor’s death then, that he disappeared rather than try to wrestle a star?
beachcryptid
lol
ʝєss
As a master linguist, did Fëanor leave these loopholes purposely or was he just off his game?
beachcryptid
I'm feeling he was very off his game XD
ʝєss
That’s my suspicion too
ʝєss
His eternal punishment is people asking these questions and pointing it out
beachcryptid
"hey but what about hobbits"
beachcryptid
"I didn't even know what hobbits were!!!"
𝕊𝕖𝕒 𝔾𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕜𝕚𝕟
Merry, patting Feanor on the shoulder "that's quite all right, as we didn't know what you were either"
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