Ash!!1
[Owl House] I finally decided to sit and watch all this before my D+ subscription runs out and that was a fun marathon
Ash!!1
(I am gonna do Amphibia next week too )
Ash!!1
What a delightful series and I'm real glad there are at least two western shows that throw back to the female lead isekai genre
Ash!!1
Also I thought Hootie would be annoying but no, he is the funniest fucking thing and I don't know why
Ash!!1
King is also adorable and funny and the mouse are fools for not making plushies of him. I THOUGHT YOU LIKED CAPITALISM!!
Mote ✧
It's a cute show!!
Ash!!1
I knew I'd love Eda already but that's just reaffirmed now. Gawd. Life goals to be that self assured as I get older
Ash!!1
I also deeply appreciate how realistic her relationship is with her sister
Ash!!1
me nodding at them trying to kill each other and then bonding over stupid shit
Ash!!1
yep that is my relationship with my older sister
Ash!!1
Luz of course is also very cute she is like. a tiny weeb mike chilton in a way and i love her
needlemancer
It's SOOO GOOD
Ash!!1
all her friends and gf are very cute and i'm glad we've gotten far enough that a main character!! can be a disaster bisexual on a kids show and it's no big deal. LIKE FINALLY
Ash!!1
I hope they continue to be cute
Ash!!1
THO
Ash!!1
I AM EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR THIS LAST EPISODE
Ash!!1
basilisk and her mom calling luz the fuck out
Ash!!1
so you ran away from your LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE FAMILY
Ash!!1
JUST BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO
Ash!!1
NO BIG ASPIRATIONS, NO TRAUMA, NO ISSUES
Ash!!1
JUST SAW A SHINY AND WENT FOR IT
Ash!!1
luz pikachu face my ultimately selfish actions emotionally hurt others???
Ash!!1
like sure she stayed in the demon realm to save Eda but Eda also wouldn't have gotten caught...if Luz hadn't meddled
Ash!!1
so womp womp
Ash!!1
I'm really curious where it will go and I really like that they're like, developing Luz in a way that doesn't demonize anyone
Ash!!1
neither her mom nor eda are in the wrong
Ash!!1
she just has a lot of loving supportive people because she is a loving supportive person!!
Ash!!1
oh also i deeply appreciate all the monster/demon designs
Ash!!1
just good shit
Ash!!1
i wonder if the animation studio was just like 'the fuck is this' every time they get storyboards sob
Ash!!1
gawd speaking of not demonizing i also like amity's family
Ash!!1
well not 'like' but just
Ash!!1
how the show is like THESE FUCKS CLEARLY AREN'T PERFECT
Ash!!1
but they clearly aren't evil either
Ash!!1
just kinda assholes sometimes iwth an overbearing mother
Ash!!1
and chaos twins
Ash!!1
its no wonder amity is a gay disaster look what she's working with
Ash!!1
she's so cute and doing her best
alwaysterrible
The Owl House is such a good
ѕαмѕα
... i mean i'd definitely call Odalia pretty close to evil considering she uses oracle magic to verbally berate her daughter every chance she gets dlfkjhtr but re: camilla god yeah i'm so glad that they didn't make her out to be like. in the wrong.
alwaysterrible
Luz and Eda and Camilla are DOING THEIR BESTS, just also Shiny
ѕαмѕα
fandom was fucking unbearable pre-midseason bc they were reaching SO HARD to call camilla abusive
alwaysterrible
Odalia is definitely doing some major gaslighting tho
ѕαмѕα
yeah what she did was fucking horrible. it was right up there with "nathaniel northwest using literal pavlovian conditioning to keep his daughter in line"
HEY LADY
ITS JUST A GOOD TIME
Ash!!1
I wouldn't call Odalia evil but she is very much the kind of mom where Amity is absolutley gonna move out as soon as possible
Ash!!1
like don't get me wrong SHE IS WORST, i think she's a bad mom
Ash!!1
but that's just it lolo
Ash!!1
I would say 'tried to kill luz' but looks at everyone that has tried to kill luz
Ash!!1
and her husband is just, tired
Ash!!1
honestly the worst move imo was telling amity she couldn't be friends with the plant witch
Ash!!1
like fuck u they're like 8!!!
Ash!!1
also WOW WHY AND HOW WOULD ANYONE CALL CAMILLA ABUSIVE
Ash!!1
she's just a normal mom doing her best and honestly the fact that she indulges Luz and DRIVES TO THE MUSEUM TO HELP HER FRIEND even tho she thinks its just Larping says a Lot
Ash!!1
this mother loves her daughter so damn much
ѕαмѕα
bc people were saying that her sending luz to that camp was similar to a parent sending their kid to one of those camps that "fixes" neurodivergent kids lmao
Ash!!1
that's not even remotely the same wheeze
needlemancer
Cannot believe owl House gave me "just fucking adopt the doppelganger who loves your life"
alwaysterrible
Camilla over here just wanting her daughter to please stop bringing snakes to school
ѕαмѕα
and like. i get that the pamphlet made it seem sketchy but camilla was nothing but supportive of luz's interests and loves her creativity, she just wants her to be.... grounded in reality
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alwaysterrible
: also like what was almost literally a bomb????
alwaysterrible
Also yeah, trying to kill someone on the Boiling Isles is like....sure a thing
Ash!!1
needlemancer
: I hope they become sisters LET THEM BECOME SISTERS
Ash!!1
ADOPT THIS DOPPLEGANGER
alwaysterrible
Also yes, a bomb v_v
needlemancer
Yeeeeeeasss#
Ash!!1
best end would be something something luz can travel freely thru both realms and be a witch without giving her mom a heart attack
alwaysterrible
Let Luz have a girlfriend and at least one sibling
needlemancer
Yesss
Ash!!1
inuyasha this bitch
alwaysterrible
Luz the Ambassador!
Drizzmas
let Luz have a whole family and a girlfriend
ѕαмѕα
yeah the "you gotta leave the fantasy world behind to really Grow Up" trope is dumb and i'm p sure this show called it out anyway so like
ѕαмѕα
the thing is, the Boiling Isles helped Luz become more grounded than she ever was before??? like it's noticeable that she leaned real hard on Azura and the stories in those books a lot in s1, but she like. very very rarely mentions it in s2?
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i can't even remember a really notable scene in s2 where she mentions Azura honestly
alwaysterrible
Fantasy isn't the pg safe setting she was hoping for
Ash!!1
Yeah she becomes far less hyper and fangirl even thru s1
ѕαмѕα
she's still excitable but she's not really letting it blind her
Ash!!1
cuz i very much was like someone get a kid leash for this child the first couple eps lolol
alwaysterrible
First episode and I think maybe a brief comment to amity 
alwaysterrible
For season two Azura
alwaysterrible
Luz learned how money works and how dangerous explosive are v_v
Ash!!1
yup!!
Ash!!1
honestly doppleganger was such a good story choice
Ash!!1
cuz how do you justify [mother has been freaking out and i am a missing person's case] cuz you're off isekai-ing for the lulz
ѕαмѕα
it's funny how everyone thought it was going to be some creepy Changeling sort of deal
ѕαмѕα
but nope
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it baby
Drizzmas
Vee is baby
Ash!!1
JUST A BABY
Ash!!1
CAMILLA'S BABY NOW
Drizzmas
and I love how people almost immediately started tagging her with "vee noceda"
ѕαмѕα
love how it took one look into the eyes of this scared child for camilla to get over her shock over a real life monster and go full Mama Bear Mode 
Ash!!1
[camilla watching spanish soap operas] 'this is my favorite!' [vee, sweating what is even being said]
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(also i fucking screeched with laughter when they had her pull out LA CHANCLA )
ѕαмѕα
ms terrace please have her do that again but with belos next time
Ash!!1
her greatest weapon
alwaysterrible
Camilla may not be creative, but she knows a child when she sees it and she knows what to do then v_v
Ash!!1
i like how she was like i am tired and not creative enough to keep playing along with this i'm just gonna knock this fucker out
Ash!!1
thank u ma'am
alwaysterrible
Actual Camilla 
Indiana Jones - Raiders Of The Lost Ark (1981) - Swo...
Ash!!1
akd;fj;adkf NOT WRONG
Ash!!1
this is just a camilla appreciation plurk now
ѕαмѕα
good
ѕαмѕα
as she deserves
Ash!!1
just let amity and luz's parents meet, let her beat up amity's mom
Ash!!1
bam problem solved probably (no)
Ash!!1
tho that also makes me wonder how witch/demon aging works?? because eda made it sound like she's been around a While
Ash!!1
but those aren't big details lololo
MRS SEPHIROTH
I mean she's 30, she's Been Around For A While in fictional time
MRS SEPHIROTH
the old person anime curse
Ash!!1
I thought she was older than 30? Since it seemed like she was around before wild magic got deemed Bad
Ash!!1
and the tiny clawhand lady said that was just 50 years ago
Ash!!1
BUT CORRECT, 30 IS ANCIENT IN ANIME YEARS
Ash!!1
gawd
MRS SEPHIROTH
hmm she dropped some lines about being around 30 but I can't recall them off the top of my head now. I think the coven stuff took momentum around the time she was young
Ash!!1
i remember her saying she saw the DBZ knock off movie 30 years ago
Ash!!1
but that would have been when she had started going in and out and collecting human stuff
Mote ✧
Yeah I think she actually looks older than she is due to curse :|a
Ash!!1
y
Ash!!1
but then that brings into question HOW OLD IS LILITH
Ash!!1
SINCE SHE IS THE OLDER SIBLING
MRS SEPHIROTH
yeah lilith is the older sibling --yes
Ash!!1
BUT DIDN'T HAVE A CURSE
Ash!!1
math meme
Mote ✧
(WAS she around before wild magic was deemed bad? I kind of feel like she just ignored that people said so)
Ash!!1
she just seemed to remember being able to use it freely, i don't think she was like, TOO far ahead of that
Ash!!1
since she both knows you can find magic in the wild but also never connected you can just do scribe magic like luz
Ash!!1
but also the school headmaster is DEFINITELY several hundred years old
Ash!!1
how does aging work!!!
MRS SEPHIROTH
like any isekai, it doesn't
Ash!!1
wheeze
Ash!!1
also i am just assuming the big bad is the brother or friend of the other human that got traped there in the past
only goes to 11
Eda can be 30 but, because she'd been lying about her age to get into adult only areas since she was like...12, she sounds like she's ancient
Ash!!1
only goes to 11
: i just mentally put her at anywhere from 30-50 in human years because i'm just like she acts exactly like me and my friends would but also all of my aunts so this seems legit
MRS SEPHIROTH
I guess raine looks close to 40s, so I feel that would be close to eda's age
Ash!!1
okay i just rewatched the clip and she says the dbz movie is 30 years old
Ash!!1
SHAKES EDA HOW OLD ARE YOU
Ash!!1
THO ALSO DON'T REMIND ME OF MY MORTALITY AS WELL
only goes to 11
Fandom wki says 43-45 
Eda Clawthorne | The Owl House Wiki | Fandom
Ash!!1
What is the truth
Ash!!1
tho 40s would make the most sense given that 'wild magic' would have only been banned for a few years so she could get away with not listening to people about it easier
Drizzmas
just saying fandom wikis are notoriously incorrect tho
Ash!!1
lolo yah
Drizzmas
but I'd think somewhere in the late thirties, early forties range
Ash!!1
i shouldn't try to put a label on a cartoon anyway but i can't help it given they mention timelines and such
Ash!!1
with the 'savage age' being JUST 50 years ago
alwaysterrible
Eda found the portal shortly after she was cursed. She used it to hide from her mom so probably saw the movie around then. She is younger then Lilith with Lilith being gifted and trying to get into the coven, so Eda really might have been about Luz's age
Ash!!1
so it'd have to be after that but not too much for her to be a rebel and still be able to freely learn a lot of magic before it was all turbo banned/restricted
alwaysterrible
She, however, grew up in the coven system. Because she Wanted to study everything and was told No, which is why she made the secret passages in the school
alwaysterrible
The limit if study is directly tied to the Coven System
Ash!!1
alwaysterrible
: YEAH thats what i'm saying, so after Savage Years but still not Too Deep into it
Ash!!1
Cuz the coven system was implemented but it didn't seem nearly as like [CLEARLY YOU ARE BUILDING AN ARMY] as it is now lolo
alwaysterrible
It makes sense Eda couldn't convince the principal to let her while Luz could. The system was New, but Old Enough to be established
Ash!!1
YEAH
Ash!!1
but that also confuses me again since, the headmaster is hundreds of years old (he makes a comment on being just a few more hundred years from retirement)
Ash!!1
but that could be specific magic since he's a teacher
Ash!!1
BUT THEN ALSO IF YOU'RE THAT OLD, SURELY U UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE SHOULD LEARN DIFFERENT MAGIC
Ash!!1
conspiracy theory jpeg
MRS SEPHIROTH
idk he's a teacher
MRS SEPHIROTH
being that tired and old is normal
MRS SEPHIROTH
oh a new curriculum okay sure
alwaysterrible
It seems like some beings age faster or slower.
Ash!!1
MRS SEPHIROTH
: yeah but then he's like yeah okay [lets the detention kids take multiple courses after they save him]
alwaysterrible
Maybe it's an amount of demon blood? Since Demons and Witches ARE different
Ash!!1
[lets luz take ALL THE CLASSES]
Ash!!1
oh that is true, it seems like some people are demons and some are witches
Ash!!1
ultimately these are all minor grievances but me, binging this all in one day like HOLD IT, A CONTRADICTION
MRS SEPHIROTH
I think once you hit a Certain Point of Teaching, you lose all fucks. maybe I'm drawing from my own experiences a bit much, but sometimes it can be like oh wait I've been going about it all wrong. some double down, but I quite like that he doesn't
alwaysterrible
It could be oversight. New has stricter oversight, but after fifty years, Bump doesn't have the Emporer breathing down his neck so he can go 'eh, sure'
MRS SEPHIROTH
though I am fond of principal bump since he's like the only non-sterotypical evil teacher we've seen in like ... decades?
Ash!!1
Oh yeah I was really delighted that he wasn't evil despite his character design lolol
Ash!!1
and like you said, just old and tired of this shit
Ash!!1
like kids please just do your classes
MRS SEPHIROTH
he's so fond of these dumb kids but also he has fucking parents breathing down his neck
MRS SEPHIROTH
I can Relate
Ash!!1
gestures at amity's parents
MRS SEPHIROTH
like every goddamn parental email I have ever received
Mote ✧
I had a teacher that used to just pretend she was a hundred years old lol
Ash!!1
but yeah it just seemed very ???? since he was so deadset on getting the emperor's approval
Ash!!1
to just be like actually idc yeah go do multiple magics
Ash!!1
WHICH IS FAR MORE INTERESTING TBF but also what is the Truth
Mote ✧
Maybe it was just because it got Eda to finally own up to a bunch of stuff
Ash!!1
that i can believe. this teacher like 'i could call the cops. oooor i could get this student to finally clean up her shit'
Ash!!1
I mean in general tho the laws are wishy washy in demon land
Ash!!1
eda: i've been wanted for several decades
Ash!!1
also eda: is not subtle in the fucking least, anyone can find her house
Ash!!1
guards just like look we don't feel like getting our ass kicked today
Ash!!1
how many times has lilith shown up to go blasting off like team rocket
Ash!!1
(not much since it seems like 'hey lilith you specifically go catch your sister' was a recent request, but still lolol)
Ash!!1
WHICH RAISES ANOTHER QUESTION
Ash!!1
for eda you can blame age and/or the curse but in what world does red hair turn black as you age
Ash!!1
is lilith dying it
Ash!!1
BUT THEN SHE GETS A GREY STREAK AFTER THE CURSE
Ash!!1
I HAVE SO MANY SMALL QUESTIONS cry
alwaysterrible
She's dying it. Her mom commented on it
alwaysterrible
She wanted to Be Serious
Ash!!1
HAHA
Ash!!1
gawd what a nerd
Ash!!1
i missed that, i love lilith
alwaysterrible
(then she gets replaced by a literal child which is hilarious)
Ash!!1
every one in this show is relatable in one way or another
alwaysterrible
I imagine the gray is just to show she was starting to age since she's only had the curse a bit. Magic hair dye problems
Ash!!1
y
alwaysterrible
I also have many thoughts and wonderings of Boiling Isles (thanks Hunter for being a nerd) but I should try to sleep
alwaysterrible
BUT TOMORROW! THOUGHTS!!!!
Ash!!1
please deposit all thoughts into this plurk i love them
Ash!!1
and more than likely missed stuff since i just put all this in my eyes in one day wheeze
Ash!!1
tho one last thing before bed, as someone who regularly binges bojack every few months, it is so bizarre having to get used to the VA being an actual good, nice character
Ash!!1
Beatrice is like nega Eda and it's so funny
Ash!!1
anyway in before it's revealed in the final ep that she's like only 23 and i'll scream
alwaysterrible
I think the show was unsure how to Age Witches, whether they were long lived or more comparable to a human timeline
alwaysterrible
MY OWN THOUGHTS is witches are actually humans who came through when the Titan originally died
alwaysterrible
Since that means Lots of Blood Still
alwaysterrible
So more likely to have portals form
alwaysterrible
So humans could show up and end up evolving on the island into witches!
alwaysterrible
THUS WHY Witches and Demons are Different from each other
alwaysterrible
Since demons evolved wholesale from the island
alwaysterrible
Or maybe demons came from animals that came through
alwaysterrible
THAT COULD EXPLAIN WHY BUGS ARE A WHOLE CATEGORY, while beasts could be So Much
alwaysterrible
More bugs showed up in comparison because bugs are small v_v
alwaysterrible
I wonder what the beast blood test is looking for despite variation
alwaysterrible
IDK maybe something to do with how bugs are exoskeletons and the purity of being an animal
alwaysterrible
But with the influence of humans being present, or maybe a human got FUSED with an animal during transport made for biped demons
alwaysterrible
Whatever made biped demons, I think they're legitimately able to breed with witches, which is why some bipeds are SUPER DIFFERENT, but you'll have bipeds who are Mostly Witches except Kemonomimi
alwaysterrible
I think that might be the Age Discrepancy
alwaysterrible
Animals got changed more into demons then humans into witches, so they end up with higher magic
alwaysterrible
Which is why demons can have extra magic that isn't spell circles
alwaysterrible
But it could give them a Longer Life
alwaysterrible
So I think the more pure blooded a witch, the more normal life span, but witch lines with demon blood mixed in can have longer lives
alwaysterrible
And while we don't see any witch traits in Bump (but he also covers up A LOT), his palismen is a little demon, so he clearly has a connection that might mean he has demon blood so his life is longer
alwaysterrible
Could also explain some of his history since he apparently lost his eye as a kid since he had his palismen eyes when he conquered the school as a kid
alwaysterrible
THOUGHTS if any of that made sense
Ash!!1
THAT'S FASCINATING AS HECK
Ash!!1
i didn't even think of it that way but honestly that'd make sense, esp with the vague story of the two brothers of the past
Ash!!1
i'm real curious where they might go with it :|a could hunter potentially have more human blood nad thats why he can't do normal magic?? unsure
🎄 mistlekyo
the theory i've been seeing floating around that makes sense to me is that Belos may be some sort clone and/or homunculus created by or from Philip Wittebane. And the same may also be the case for Hunter
Ash!!1
ooooh
Ash!!1
heck yeah lets get all FMA up in here ABOMINATIONS ALREADY EXIST, WHY NOT
alwaysterrible
There is like several different ways this information fits together and I have no idea which
alwaysterrible
IF HUNTER A CONSTRUCTED BEING, idk, I'll assume at least the scars means he bleeds so I don't have to figure that otu
alwaysterrible
Since head wound may or may not be bleeding-
alwaysterrible
ANYWAY
Ash!!1
i think hunter has been beat up enough to confirm he is an organic being of some sort yeah adkfdsjfs
alwaysterrible
The one thing for sure is at least In Some Way they are both related to the human brothers
alwaysterrible
Hunter getting beat up so at least his biology fakes it Well Enough
alwaysterrible
DID YOU SEE THE GRIMWALKER PAGE
alwaysterrible
Do I need to grab it-
alwaysterrible
THIS THING
THIS THING
alwaysterrible
Hello page that shows Hunter's eyes, who is confirmed to be the only one with Uniquely That Color
alwaysterrible
There are red eyes, but nothing like his