Quinneapolis
how do you write action stories about The Flash
Quinneapolis
without making The Flash look like the world's stupidest, laziest moron
Quinneapolis
hardmode: no enemy speedsters
Rama
You remember that super speed does not equate to "time stopping the rest of the planet"
Rama
Someone on youtube did a whole thing on this. I think it was Nando.
Quinneapolis
The Flash unquestionably has the ability to think and react at the same speed that he moves at
Quinneapolis
that's established many times over
Rama
That's not so much what I'm talking about as establishing things like "degree of speed"
Rama
Or "other things still have momentum and inertia"
Rama
Like okay I haven't watched shit or fuck with Flash in it, I'm thinking of the Sonic the Hedgehog movie
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taking this as a serious challenge and not a prompt to describe things that exist
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:
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he has to stop to interact with things without obliterating them
Quinneapolis
Sonic the Movie has the exact same problems The Flash has
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a cunning enemy attacks then
magnet
Flash's speed is r̵u̸n̸,̴ ̴B̸a̸r̵r̵y̴
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while unseen
Rama
Where Sonic clowns an entire bar full of rednecks effortlessly because he can just manipulate things like a god while no time subjectively passes for the rednecks
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your anti-Flash strat is stealth
Rama
That's not how anything works, things have mass
Quinneapolis
I guess if the flash can't superspeed move people without shattering them, and the flash doesn't want to kill people, now he has limitations
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the descriptive answer, judging by CW:
Rama
Similar to how you limit Superman when dealing with non superhumans
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never ever ever ever play on hard mode
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Quinneapolis
the CW show seems to have tons of recurring non-speedster villains who operate by, like
shivorce
i was just about to say lightsaber battles
Quinneapolis
Barry watches them do things and makes no effort to stop them
shivorce
psychic damage received once more
shivorce
see the whole "watch and be dumb" thing was fine in the first season, when he was a rookie
shivorce
but after several seasons it is worn out
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hey why does Thawne still do the vibrate-to-keep-people-from-seeing-him-clearly thing when everybody knows his identity
Quinneapolis
how many times does the cold gun guy just like
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also, why did he ever do it when he has a mask
Quinneapolis
walk away
Quinneapolis
does Barry have a code of honor where if someone tries to run he refuses to stop them
shivorce
the vibrate thing is because the actor looks awful without it
shivorce
just straight up the cowl looks awful
Quinneapolis
consider in the lightsaber fight clip
Quinneapolis
everyone back at star labs is looking on with tense anxiety as they watch the fight
Quinneapolis
but like
Quinneapolis
we saw the computer screen
Quinneapolis
they can just see dots showing where they are
Quinneapolis
they're watching three dots wiggle around
Gabiluzbad
How long has Flash been able to make lighstabers?
Quinneapolis
I think literally the duration of that youtube video
Rama
Man
Rama
I miss Power Rangers
Frozen Time
I don't know about the CW show, but as far as the cold gun guy goes, as well as the rest of Flash
Frozen Time
's non-speedster rogue's gallery goes, IIRC in the comics they're basically the least dangerous rogue's gallery any heroes have.
Frozen Time
So it's not like, oh, you let the guy with the freeze ray get away and now he's going to murder people, it's like, now he's going to blow all the money he just stole in a bar or whatever
Frozen Time
Flash's rogues are at their most dangerous when somebody outside their town is trying to fuck with the Flash, and then they're like "HEY, YOU CAN'T DO THAT, FUCK OFF"
Rama
The one bit from JLU makes this work
Rama
I think it was JLU, might have been a JL movie
Gabiluzbad
"You're wearing the costume again"?
Gabiluzbad
that was JLU
Rama
Yeah that one
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even outside of the Trickster, in that JLU episode
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there's a bunch of other guys who are making "serious" plans to kill the Flash
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but it's like
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clearly a game
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to everybody involved
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the weapons are real and it's not like they're not really trying
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but there's just a rapport
moontouched
yeah the flash rogues gallery are a bunch of bored nerds
moontouched
killing people would take the fun out of it
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they get caught and they mope like Scooby Doo villains
Niamh Vibes
To my recollection, there is a canonical bit in the new Flash show with Captain Cold where they’re like
Niamh Vibes
CC: “I am a calculating genius who you can never truly defeat, Flash. Only your speed makes you a challenge for me”
Flash: “if you’re so smart, I bet you can’t do your heists without killing people”
CC: “CHALLENGE ACCEPTED”
moontouched
keystone's real problem is that it hasn't got enough engaging pipelines to stop bored tech nerds from becoming supervillains
moontouched
and its rogues gallery sorta accidentally reflects that
moontouched
much like how one of gotham's real problems is that developing a proper system to address class inequality and poverty and mental health issues is fucking impossible, so batman's rogues gallery is a bunch of dysfunctional assholes whose coping mechanisms are all supervillainy
A Grinning DM
Captain Cold in the CW is definitely a murderer
A Grinning DM
and Flash just kind of let him get away with it because he promised to not murder anymore
A Grinning DM
meanwhile in the comics, one of the rogues did kill one of the flashes (bart), but only because one of the reverse flashes tricked them into doing it and they were, like, super mad about it
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