vampiricist
https://images.plurk.com/7McTgsPA7ESuyGCe93z4QJ.png Tell us you're Southern and Christian without telling us you're Southern and Christian
vampiricist
(featuring my friend's doctor's office)
meh.
wow
meh.
lifelong catholic here, and that's giving me the willies
KrisKrampus
Another lifelong Catholic: I'm used to religious art in every room of the house, but... I'm side-eyeing that wall hard.
tronja307020
lol Baptist-raised kid here, and uhhh, yeah, that is actually an extremely Evangelical/White Suburban Christian bible belt thing that you see a lot.
Exacerangutan
...it's so weird on so many levels
Exacerangutan
like, setting aside the whole No Idols thing that has me, being Jewish, bewildered at a lot of Christian religious artifacts, this is a whole other world
violentsound
maybe they're really scared of vampires. and good taste.
Exacerangutan
like, I'd think collecting that many holy symbols, presented as a personal collection, especially with so much kitsch and clashing styles, would be disrespectful
tronja307020
Naw, see, this is all about shoving how Christian they are in everyone's faces as conspicuously as they can.
Exacerangutan
Oh I get that that's the intention
tronja307020
And tbh, Christianity doesn't really put much weight in the whole "no idols" thing, unless it's something that's not Christian. If it's Christian, you can have as many idols as you want. The more the better. The non-obnoxious people are just more reasonable about it and will have like. A couple little angel statues, or a precious moments figurine, or a
tronja307020
couple of cross necklaces, but they don't get so over the top about it.
Exacerangutan
I get the (nutso) logic of "whoever has the most and biggest crosses must love Jesus the most and therefore is the best Christian and person in general" but this seems almost like American flag underwear
Exacerangutan
which I know also gets used that way even though every sane person and the Flag Code knows it's disrespectful as hell
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
Ah, the Cross Wall
tronja307020
Hell, even when it comes to non-Christian things, as long as it's not a religious item from something non-Christian, you can have as many things as you want.
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
They're kinda out of fashion now in my neck of the woods- now it's like, driftwood panels with bible quotes in loopy script
Exacerangutan
Yeah, that's the thing, the inconsistency of rules gets to me XD
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
A doctor's office though......time to run away screaming
tronja307020
In some cases, it's almost more disrespectful to them to not have crosses everywhere. Or to have something non-Christian. These are the types of people who will scream about this being a Christian Nation when they see an Asian restaurant with a Buddha outside of it, or deface a "windy man" sculpture put on an overpass by the
tronja307020
city because it's "pagan blasphemy."
Exacerangutan
...I suspect it's less "disrespectful" and more that people who refuse to acknowledge that the religiosity contest means anything threaten the self-image based on their Performative Faith
tronja307020
Ugh, oh God, the bible quotes on everything, that's another one. Just. Everywhere. Some quippy little lyrical quote that has huge "Live, Laugh, Love" vibes, and you take a closer look like "wtf is this?" and underneath it, you'll see in smaller but-still-conspicuous print something like "John 35:928"
tronja307020
Oh yeah, it's all extremely performative. If you're not proving how much holier than thou you are to everyone around you, you're not doing it right with these people.
Exacerangutan
But actual respect is something a lot of people seem to struggle with. Fear, they get, and envy, but idk about respect.
tronja307020
Like. Just to give you an idea of the kind of bullshit these people pull, where I grew up, just before we moved to Austin in 2009, there was a span of time where it was getting bonkers. They shut down a fine arts gallery showing because some of the paintings had women's breasts exposed, like every other painting in classical art, they defaced the
tronja307020
previously-mentioned overpass decor, they became the literal only place where Chippendales dancers were arrested before they'd gotten any farther into their routine than unbuttoning their shirts, and they had an undercover sex-toy sting at a lingerie shop that sold vibrators that were kept in a locked, opaque case where you couldn't just see them out in
tronja307020
the open and had to ask for them specifically. They actually arrested the clerks making the sell to the undercover police officers.
tronja307020
They were also dry counties, and you couldn't have strip clubs, oh no! Bu you go 5 minutes outside the city limits, and there were blocks of liquor stores for Grandma to get her hooch, and there were women strip clubs along the same geographical setup. Everyone still wanted these things, they just didn't want to be seen having these things, so they
tronja307020
could still pretend to be good, God-fearin' Christian folk, ya hear?
tronja307020
Literally, the chippendales dancing one was just mind-blowing. They actually had the cops come to the show to make sure they didn't do anything illegal, they got the proper permits and made sure they were doing things right, but the second things got even the tiniest bit non-clothed, WHOOP WHOOP, ARRESTS HAPPENING! Probably cause Officer Jim Bob didn't
tronja307020
like how them pretty, muscled men were makin' him feel, dancin' up there with his shirt open, or because they didn't like that the lady-folk and the gays were gettin' to see them menfolk dancin' for them to oggle. They need to know their place.
Exacerangutan
Well you see crosses are like security cameras for God, so as long as you do all your sinning someplace other than where you keep the highest concentration of crosses, God can't get you.
tronja307020
(LOL) That, or as long as you take your hooch back home, where you can tell God it's just for your hot toddies when you get a sniffle. Every night. At 3PM.
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
I mean, it's degrees of devotion. Some Evangelicals do it because they just like collecting interesting crosses and/or Mary Lou in their study group has a tasteful wall and they like the aesthetic & conversation piece aspect of it- like if it weren't crosses, it would be pineapples or dachshunds etc
Exacerangutan
Well you see having alcohol isn't a sin, it's just interacting with those sinful people who give it to you that's sinful and gives you sin cooties.
tronja307020
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ : Oh yeah, to be fair, there are plenty of them who like collecting these things just because it makes them happy, so it's not all a bunch of whacko hypocrites. lol You'll just see more people who are into these kinds of collections in locations where that hyper-conspicuous religiousness is the norm.
tronja307020
Exacerangutan : Well, it's also a lot of "See, I'm not being a sinning alcoholic. I can quit anytime I want. I just like a drink from time to time. It's all those other people in the liquor store who are alcoholics who need to put down the bottles!"
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
The smell test for me is usually, if they're ultra-whackadoo they'll draw attention to it the moment you're inside their home
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
The aesthetic-but-Christian folks that aren't nuts typically don't
tronja307020
Yeah, you tend to have people on a gradient; the people who just have the pretty cross wall, the people who go to Church on Sunday and tell their coworker-best-friend's daughter about how great the Left Behind series is and she should totally read it, and the ones who are like the Karens of the PTO, only with Church.
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
I miss when Mom had one because she's occasionally difficult to gift-give for & she was always so happy to get a new, interesting cross lol
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
Omg Left Behind
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
tronja307020
(LOL) Yeah, my mom is the same way. I've learned as I get older and she gets more evangelical that if I'm having trouble figuring out what to get her, an interesting bible or cross will do wonders.
tronja307020
Right??? I was totally drinking the kool-aid as a kid, so I just sat and listened to her recommendations like "Ooooh, yes, that sounds lovely! :U" and then I got to be older and I was like
tronja307020
Have to say, I'm glad I never took the time to pick those up.
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
I got my mom into LB, oops
tronja307020
LOL yeah, naw, my mom's been doing that stuff all on her own.
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
I picked up some of the YA novels at the library, because the covers looked interesting & I was on a big End Times kick
tronja307020
Yeah, post-apocalypse stuff is fascinating to read! I can see why they would make you go "Ooooh!"
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
She read all of the adult series but really grew to dislike them by the time the series wrapped up, since so much of it was like... PG torture porn
tronja307020
Ooooh, that's not fun. :T
tronja307020
I knew they got to be pretty awful by the end of it, but I don't know that any of the reviews I watched went that far into the series. They just got a few books in and talked about how really judgy it was, when you really looked at what was happening.
tronja307020
And then Kirk Cameron happened, and it just went straight to
miles you ass
/rollerskates in here, crashes into a wall/ i heard left behind
miles you ass
also that wall in a DOCTOR'S OFFICE makes me go
Exacerangutan
XD
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
I think they made Jesus a legit character in the last book or something? Mom really didn't like that!
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
Felt weirdly blasphemous
ɴᴇᴡ ᴘᴏʟʟᴜᴛɪᴏɴ
I say, as a habitual taker-of-the-Lord's-name-in-vain ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SouthernMoonshine
Oh that’s actually pretty mild. I’ve seen walls with a lot more.
SouthernMoonshine
Also been out to the Cross Garden in Prattville, where a retired gentleman put up almost 100 crosses on his property, complete with a chapel he would minister in while he made crosses. see here
SouthernMoonshine
Honestly they’re missing a giant picture of either Jesus or an angel
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