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ooh...
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should I just answer all of these? (LOL)
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1. several: SMT DDS, Persona 4, the Soul Reaver trilogy, most of the Ace Attorney and related games... XGRA... WipEout Omega Collection with the PS4's VR....
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2. honestly, idk. if I don't like it, it tends not to stick in my memory much, because I just move on.
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3. SMT Nocturne's recent remake, and SMT5.
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also, of course, all the coming AA games...
Pteryx
As far as coming AA games, heard about the DGS/Great Ace Attorney games getting an official English release as a collection (of two) soon?
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yeeesssss.
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but I hope they're physical, because I tend never to buy digital....
Pteryx
Sadly I doubt it. Capcom doesn't seem to think physical releases of AA games are worth it in the US anymore...
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4. I cannot for the life of me get into Final Fantasy games. I just can't.

I think it's a combo of two things: first, the Star Trek vs Star Wars thing. it's usually what you loved first, that you love more, because of the added points from the Nostalgia Goggles.

for me, that wasn't FF. it was Sid Meyer's Pirates, it was the Ultima games, it was-
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Moebius: Orb of Celestial Harmony, it was Phantasy Star IV (which I should've included in answering 1, too), and a handful of other games.

the second thing is the Titanic Song effect. I'm sure it's great, and I don't doubt that others love it, but I kinda never want to hear it again. that song was basically on endless repeat on every pop radio station-
Pteryx
Worth noting that some games in the FF series get an overexposure effect relative to the rest of the series, too. (FF7, I'm looking at you. (unsure) )
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when it came out, and I still find myself gritting my teeth when I hear it somewhere.

in high school, the kids I'd hung out with and nerded out about video games, cartoons/anime, etc, with? FF7 came out, and then they wouldn't talk about anything else for even five whole minutes. I tried to get them onto other subjects.
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not so coincidentally, I ended up not still hanging out with them much, all that long after that. :-)

and then there was FFX, which my sister's then-bf was playing on the tv right next to the computer, when I was trying ever so hard to work on some 3D models I was making. I'll let you guys guess how irritated I was with that title.... (spoiler: very.)
Pteryx
And her not saving after the fake laughter scene was just rude.
'Sail
oh, I just had a very short fuse that particular night when he was playing that. I never said anything about it. just, it went on so long when I was trying so hard to get through a particularly frustrating bit on what I was making, and... idk. I just... have a bit of a grudge against that scene in particular.
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but none of what I saw of him playing FFX appealed to me.
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and then FF12... someone played some of it where I could watch it, and I just... idk. I didn't really feel anything. it was visually kinda pretty? but my brain was already going "nope, cannot suspend disbelief enough to try getting into this one" in the first few minutes....
'Sail
but I mean, the specific art style, not... the uh... fashion choices in it.

'cause boy, FF sure does have some fashion choices...
Pteryx
...yeah, FF12 IMO has a distinct problem wherein the story and the gameplay, while individually decent, really fit together poorly, and the places where they try to connect or transition are the weakest parts.
'Sail
and the more I hear about FF13, the more I dislike it.
Pteryx
FF13 is infamous even in FF fandom, so.
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yeah... I can guess why, lol.
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and then a friend of a friend tried to nerd out with me about games, and when I was trying to explain that I didn't have any particular love for the FF franchise (I mean, I was really trying to be diplomatic about it, too!) she started laying into me about how I needed to give FF6 a chance!!! like, would not give up, to the point where I blatantly
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laid out for her that if she tried to urge me to do it one more time, I would be absolutely certain to put it on my "will never ever give it a chance" list. that finally kindasorta shut her up, and she was pissed about it. I'm just like... why can you not grasp that just because you like something doesn't make it okay to try to immediately cram it
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down someone else's throat, when they say they're only lukewarm on it and give it a "maybe once I've finished more of my excited-for-these games list, I'll look into it." how is that ever an invitation to berate someone about the thing? sigh....
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but! moving on.
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5. ....nope, I'm drawing a blank, for the most part.

I can say that, as a sequel of sorts, Blood Omen 2 was terrible. there's a reason it
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's the black sheep of the LoK franchise.

but, on its own merits, it's a great game, and I love it. it has some of the best bad lines, some "so bad it's good" parts... but it stars Simon Templeman as the main char's VA, and I am a big fan of his because of that role. the gameplay mechanics are solid, the game itself is fun... yeah, I like it.
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I just really wish the devs' bosses had let it be its own game - Chakan, iirc - rather than making them shoehorn it into the LoK franchise as a second Blood Omen game. they could've had another team work with the Soul Reaver devs to make a more fitting BO2 than that. :-(
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6. probably the PS2. I've spent more time playing it than probably any other console, and its library is fabulous.

runner up for me is likely the PSP. I have something of an on-again-off-again love-obsession with a handful of games on it, like Sims Castaway, the Project Diva and Megpoid games, and the Pirates! remake, lol....
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but I also really love my DS and 3DS... and my PS4... man, why does this have to be such a hard question?
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7. several, lol. I love Serph, from DDS. I adore how Atlus pulled off the Silent Protag thing, but still managed to show his personality just fine, refusing to leave him as a blank slate: he's a complete dorkus. he's sweet, kinda (understandably!) ignorant, thoughtful, and he will literally eat your face if you hurt his best friends. (LOL)
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both Phoenix Wright and Edgeworth count as protags thanks to how the games play! Phoenix is a funny guy, and Edgeworth is one of the few chars I actually feel confident in pointing to and going "I understand this" with his apparent ace-ness. like, I could actually maybe point him out to someone as an example of "I want more of this" regarding having a
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character for whom romance apparently isn't on the agenda, let alone hookups. I get that the majority of people are allosexual and expect certain things out of the media they consume, but at this point, it really feels like a mere checklist item. "must include sexual or romantic things" - why, though? why can't we have more chars who're interested in
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the actual plot going on around them, solving murders or whatever else is going on? why not get rid of that checklist item? it's obnoxious. it detracts from most things, for me. :-(
Pteryx
I honestly get the sense that it's not just the allosexuality thing, but also the heavy social conditioning/expectations of girls.
Pteryx
Romance is "supposed to be" the be-all and end-all of women's interests, so it's drilled into a lot of people that they "should" be interested in that, and meanwhile media companies often think forcing in romance is required to attract women and girls as an audience.
Pteryx
But that's my take from over here in the gender-stereotypes-are-stupid corner.
'Sail
oh, surely. I've fantasized about the things I'd like to tell to the people that ~assure me~ that I will change my mind about wanting children someday. or the guys that seem to think their dick is magical and will interest me, if I just ~give them a chance~.

"resentment" toward this bullshit is putting it mildly.
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whoops, 7pm my time... time for an event in a game I'm playing. bbs.
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other favorite protags: both Raziel and Kain.

Raziel's a spoiled, melodramatic Brat Prince. self-righteous, self-important... but he wants to see himself as being in the right. so to that end, he's trying to do the right thing... but oh god, is he ever facepalm-worthy sometimes, in going about it. I love it. he's an unreliable narrator at times, even!
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and Kain's confident, careful in plotting things. kind of a Magnificent Bastard type. callous, cruel, even, but more because piddling little things like random humans' lives simply don't concern him. the fate of the world does. kill the annoying beggars; this vampire needs blood while he figures out what time-travel bullshit he's up against this time.
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...I think I should give Eike Kusch an honorable mention too, honestly. he's from Shadow of Destiny/Shadow of Memories. he's such a dumb dorkus. (LOL) he's kind, sweet, a guy that goes out of his way to give a lonely little kid a kitten, while he's busy time-hopping to try to solve things to prevent his own murder.
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and some of the shenanigans you can get up to if you repeat certain scenes enough times are just great. he starts messing with people, because he knows what they're going to say, because he's been through this time loop before.
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neeerrrrrd.
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I wish his VA had been given better direction, though, and that the writing in some parts had been better, in phrasing things in the dialog. oh well.

...more than that, though, I wish they'd looked up the pronunciation of some of the chars' names... but at least they were consistent in getting it wrong....
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(I will forever dig my heels in that his name is "EYE-kah", not "Ike" in how it's said. hmph.)
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I feel like I'm missing naming someone else for my list of favorite protags....
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I mean, there're plenty of other chars I like, but "favorites"? hmm....
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(maybe I shouldn't be musing on this meme on about 3-4 hours of sleep, lmfao)
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8. worst protagonist? ....

....

wow, I'm drawing another blank. again, I don't really dwell on games/chars I don't really like....
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9. first console was the Sega Genesis - the second version of it, the square-shaped one. it came with Sonic 2. [n:3n[

10. ....does Blood Omen 2 count?
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11. I don't remember precisely... I think it would be the copy of Epic Mickey on the Wii, for my nephew.

for myself, I think it was Ghost of the Dusk, for 3DS? or WipEout 2048 for Vita. (I have a Vita, but it needs to be repaired. doesn't mean I won't still get games for it, for when it is!) or maybe Spirit Camera on 3DS...?
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I'll be honest, I haven't been playing my consoles much lately. just mostly playing a mobile game (the one I ducked out briefly for) or alternating between the second 3DS AA game, and Soul Hackers (also on 3DS.)
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12. JRPGs, racing, puzzle, mystery, platformers.... I'm mostly just not fond of (or good at) sports games or FPS ones. give me games of reflex and/or strategy, things I can practice at, and get better that way, or logic to death. :-D
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13. several in DDS, a certain death scene in Soul Reaver 2, and I seem to recall a few in various Ace Attorney games....

oh man, I'm blanking again on this one.... I know there's more, but....
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14. Kain. (I say he counts, lol) ....probably Moebius from the same games, too. he's such a wonderful asshole - just, a totally great char. (LOL)
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...I should list the Elder God there too; that game is just... such a mindfuck, in the end, and I love it.
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15. once again, I don't really pay much attention to the things I'm super unimpressed with....
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16. a mobile game I kinda can't rec to anyone, on account of how jaw-droppingly greedy the game is, with the pricing on in-game items.

on console... as said earlier, I've been bouncing between an Ace Attorney title and SMT Soul Hackers.
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17. several: Shin Megami Tensei, Ace Attorney, WipEout... I have some serious nostalgia goggles on for Phantasy Star, too. I haven't been able to really get into any of the later games (just a matter of time vs priorities, tbh) but PSIV will always own a fair chunk of my heart.

big shout-outs to the Zero Time Dilemma/999/VLR franchise for being seriously
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cool and super well done puzzle/story games! and I will always adore Persona, but I think I blanked and lumped it in with the SMT mention above, even though I know better, lol.
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18. the Soul Reaver trilogy. (it's a three-part game, lbr here.) beautiful ambient music all throughout it? unusual instrumentation? a feeling of odd magic and medieval-ish shenanigans? yes please.

XGRA. it's racing music - BT, Celldweller, Alien Breed... upbeat, kinda rock/dance types of stuff. I keep it on a playlist, and often put it on while I go
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biking... surprise! I end up getting places more quickly for it! lol.

and then there's something to be said for everything in most of the SMT and Persona games. P3 and P4, I adore... DDS's soundtrack just plain rocks, as does Nocturne's... I should hunt down the others' again.

the AA games? yes please; gimme. I love the orchestral cover album, especially.
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...do the Project Diva and Megpoid game soundtracks count? lol....
Karinu
The one thing I'll say in defense of FF here is there is a LOT of variation between them, so any given one may strike a chord with someone who gets nothing out of the rest. 6 does have a lot going for it... but I could note very different things that each other entry has going for it. Whatever anyone says FF is about, there's an exception.
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also, the original Katamari Damacy OST. and the Jet Set Future Radio/Jet Grind Radio games', too...
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honestly, I have given a good handful of them at least a little look. the only one I actually enjoyed enough to remember was some kind of multiplayer GBA one, which I gather wasn't "really" an FF game. something about one player carrying a thing, and the rest of us having to stay near them....
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but really, again, it's a matter of priorities vs time, for bothering to do more than glance in their general direction lately. I have a growing list of games I really want to play/play more, and FF games just... aren't anywhere near the top of it. for all I know, I'll love one of the earlier titles! ...but the idea of playing the Sherlock-era AA game is
Karinu
Hmm. Not sure if I know that one or not. I know at least that FF branding was applied to several original Game Boy games that were actually different series entirely in Japan
Karinu
Mm, and I wouldn't want to recommend one without a more solid idea of what you'd be looking for in the first place. Because there are so many with a unique charm, but all of them are flawed enough that if that particular game's charm doesn't work for you, you'd probably just get annoyed.
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far, far more appealing to me than trying those FF ones, you know? or hunting down the pieces to build my own Switch, and grabbing a copy of whatever SMT game I can get my hands on for it - SMTV, maybe? or Nocturne's remake... or setting up in DDS to screw with Harley again, to figure out more about his mechanics...
Karinu
Though I'll note that when I'm curious about a game but not really sure I want to put time/effort/money into it, I usually look for a Let's Play.
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or repairing that Vita, so I can scrub the 'net for any leads on getting XGRA (a PS2 title) to maybe play on it....
Karinu
A good Let's Play has gotten me enjoyably through games I can't stand to play. :-P
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....okay, yeah, that's a fair idea, lol. but again, other priorities. I'd actually like to find a playthrough of the first three Phantasy Star games, come to think of it.... (thinking)
Karinu
I... think HCBailly has done one of them.
Karinu
Karinu
He's got 2, 3 and 4 as well
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...come to think of it, I should ask Ian about that one Wii game I'd tried out at his house that one time....
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thanks! I'll check it out later. :-)
Karinu
(Heck, I'd personally like to find a really good LP of FFXIV. The story is awesome, especially once you reach the expansions. The gameplay... not so much.)
Karinu
(Someone Pteryx and I know has been streaming it on Twitch, but it's hard to catch and the VODs aren't archived for long.)
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19. ....once again, nothing's particularly sticking out for me...?

20. oh man. first console game was Sonic 2. first game ever was on the Amiga computer - Battle Chess! and then on PC, Sid Meier's Pirates!, Moebius: Orb of Celestial Harmony, Ninja (a little side-scroller), the CGA Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?...
Karinu
Heh. I'm not entirely sure what my first video game actually was, mostly because I don't remember which we got first: the Apple ][ + or the Intellivision. :-P
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21. ...I have no idea? I haven't finished getting a 100% perfect rating on every song on Normal difficulty yet, in Megpoid the Music , which was actually a goal of mine, at one point....
Karinu
Come to think of it, I probably played a few games on someone else's Commodore 64 before either...
Karinu
Ah, actually, probably played some games on an Apple ][ e at school even before that? I vaguely remember Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego on the Apple ][ e.
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the WitWiCS I played was on an old 386, with CGA graphics, lol
Karinu
Heh, I actually played Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego on an XT Clone with CGA.
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22. Atlus, likely. and the Soul Reaver team. possibly the AA team too, but I definitely can't give that award to Capcom as a whole. give us the games in English, in cartridge form, dammit.

23. .....uhh...... not coming to mind atm, sorry.

24. ... /shrug?

25. in my collection? Klonoa, Eternal Darkness, Diablo on PSX, almost all the AA games... I'd have
Karinu
Which sounds a lot different on a pre-MIDI system, notably
Karinu
It was kind of jarring when I put it on Dosbox and got radically different sound because Dosbox provides a virtual SoundBlaster
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to look up a lot of mine; I don't always pay attention to their prices, lol. umm... Persona 3 Portable, Persona 1 on PSX (so sue me, I wanted it for collector reasons!) and... I'll have to dig through my shelf to refresh my memory on what all else I actually own; a lot of games, I bought but haven't played yet, so I don't really recall offhand...
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hah, yeah, I could imagine. I'd like to get a good recording of various music bits from the original Pirates! game, which used the internal PC speaker. makes me wonder if I could take an old PC and rewire its internal speaker to an AUX cord, and hook it to another comp's Line In.... (thinking)
Karinu
Actually, you can get the PC speaker sound out of Dosbox if you remove the environment setting for the soundblaster device port, IIRC.
Karinu
As for my most valuable game... almost certainly Suikoden II. That game is ridiculously rare.
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really? ....makes me wonder if I have that one too. I have a lot of games, lmfao....
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most of them are PSX and PS2 titles, too....
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and I'll have to try that, in DOSBox... but I don't recall if Pirates! is a DOS game or just a boot-game....
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and if we're including PC games, then for 18, I'm going to have to add Commander Keen 4 and Jill of the Jungle to the list, too.
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26? my PS4. which my niece has snagged for now. ...and as she's realized she can browse/play Youtube on it on her TV.... I suspect I won't get it back for a while. lol...

27. tossup: the Soul Reaver series (RIP, Tony Jay (Sher Khan, Frollo, Megabyte...) and Rene Auberjonois (Odo from DS9), in particular... other VAs include Simon Templeman and Michael Bell)
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and basically everything Atlus makes, imho. but if I had to pick just one, I'm going with the Soul Reaver games.

28. ...I was very sick and tired of Teddie's constant freakouts in battles in P4, when I would one-shot the enemies and get a whopping 1 XP from the battle, because I was so obscenely over-leveled that I was absently auto-ing everything.
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OH NOES, there's four enemies! /presses triangle; battle is already over with

OMG LOOK OUT, FIVE ENEMIES!!! /presses triangle; battle ends.....

ffs, Teddie, shut up or I will just turn the sound off on my TV and put on some Tool or something. goddammit....
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30. ...../shrug??

31. not counting the mobile game I've sunk countless hours into, probably SR1. once I got my hands on a GameShark code someone came up with, that patched a kind of double-jump-prompts-"flying" behavior in, I spent hours flying around, landing everywhere I shouldn't, just to see the landscape from different angles, and draw it...
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that's after the many hours I spent playing the game normally, finishing every block puzzle in the Cathedral (yes, every. single. goddamn. one. ....fucking block puzzles, goddamn.... /eyetwitch) and then even exploring as much as I could in the Rahabim's territory... and then mapping out some of the areas, like the Lighthouse.... I think I still
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have a lot of the maps and diagrams I'd made, around here somewhere. I know I at least have some scans of them, and of my detail studies of a couple of the enemies, for reference-image purposes....
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or maybe it was DDS1, where I spent multiple hours with a clipboard and pencil, making tally-marks to keep track of how many times Harley used what skills, to try to better understand his actual, in-game stats.... out of spite, after someone pissed me off, in the DWRP game I was in at the time. this was after playing this full-length JRPG, too.
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...because I was on a new-game-plus run, to do what I wanted to do with him.

or maybe it was P4, where I spent so many hours grinding in the stripclub dungeon to get ridiculously OP, in my mad quest to create a particular persona and get its level up high enough that it could learn a particular skill, that my savegame says I was at ~87 hours?
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iirc, anyway.

or maybe it's 7 Days to Die, with all the time I've spent playing with a few friends of mine, building our bases and crafting weaponry, stockpiling the items we like, growing crops, etc....
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...I also don't recall how much time I sank into my now-abandoned quest to get a Perfect on all songs on both Easy and Normal difficulty, in the Megpoid game (and some songs, on Hard, or even Extreme!) but that save game was since lost when the memory card was corrupted, so my quest was aborted.....
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or Soul Hackers, lmfao. I spent what felt like forever in this one dungeon, grinding to get up to a high enough level that I could let the Archangel join me, who liked me... and make serious bank off the Mad Gasser. (he still cracks me up, no lie)
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or the many nights I spent playing XGRA until stupid o'clock in the morning....
Pteryx
HCBailey is pretty thorough in his treatments of games, but has the downside of repetitiveness in his presentation.
Pteryx
Thorough as in "100%s almost every Let's Play". I've seen him miss a secret, what, once?
Pteryx
Tries to show off every monster, etc.
Pteryx
(Aside on the nostalgia front when it comes to FF games: FF4 was the first I played, but I can step back objectively and say its story is overall pretty cheesy with a handful of bare-bones strong points, and its gameplay simplistic enough that I could see new players not getting much out of it these days aside from historical curiosity.)
Pteryx
(And I gather you'd rather have something that stands up better on its own merits if you were to try any of the series, so...)
Pteryx
(Also way up there on the nostalgia-goggles meter is Secret of Mana, to the point that I kind of wish someone would make an indie in-the-spirit-of game because the reality of SoM itself doesn't live up to my nostalgia for it.)
Pteryx
(Probably surpassing FF4 on that front for me.)
Pteryx
(And no, SD3/Trials of Mana doesn't count on the "better Secret of Mana" front.)
Pteryx
(Think I'll take elaborating on that to my own Plurk, though.)
'Sail
honestly, I'm more leaning toward finishing Soul Hackers and then digging into SMTIV.
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I have games that're on my "want to play this" list, that I haven't even gotten around to starting yet..... (thinking)
Pteryx
Mm, does sound like you have plenty of fun lined up. Just thought I'd toss in some "definitely not for you"s there. :-P
'Sail
fair enough!
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and now after talking to someone about old computer games, I'm pondering whether Jill of the Jungle's key config would lend itself to being mapped to the PSP in DOSBox... could I set up my PSP to play it?
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hmm, hmm, I may have to try it...
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https://imgs.plurk.com/QzM/A73/4teky2Ze7ByDEn7StrrdCR98jQ1_lg.jpg
Pteryx
:-D
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