Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:12 PM
Sat, Jun 5, 2021 12:49 AM
[DFFOO] /taps microphone
Kadaj is Seven all over again, but people forgive him because he's a Sephiroth/he's not a Type-0
mask of pride 🌸
@cityescape
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:13 PM
...motherfuck
mask of pride 🌸
@cityescape
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:13 PM
YOU'RE NOT WRONG
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:13 PM
(people did not particularly forgive him)
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:14 PM
(people just discriminate against Seven because she's a Type-0)
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:14 PM
Whereas people don't discriminate against Kadaj because he's an FF7
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:14 PM
questionable
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:14 PM
he's from the Not Original Parts of FF7, aka the compilation
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:14 PM
it's the movie, sure, but still
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:15 PM
The point being their mechanics are very similar but I'm seeing more people willing to pity him
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:21 PM
fair
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:21 PM
BERSERKER : on second thought, you're right. I forgot people dunk on Type 0 for all the characters it has in-game
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:22 PM
yeah. yeah
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:22 PM
Type 0 gets a LOT of flak in gachas that aren't Brave Exvius
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:22 PM
Because it has as many playable characters as FF6 but unlike FF6 it wasn't these grognards' first FF
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:23 PM
(DFFOO still doesn't have Umaro or Gogo. Or Banon, I guess, if we go NPCs)
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:30 PM
Yet they choose to dunk on Type 0 instead of saying things like "Leo LD when, Squeenix"
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:31 PM
granted, I'm not a die hard Type 0 fan, but oh boy
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:32 PM
...in Leo's defense
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:32 PM
He's the ONE SINGULAR CHARACTER in the ENTIRE JAPANESE ROSTER still stuck at Lv70
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:32 PM
when characters are getting their Lv90 awakenings
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:33 PM
Which is weird since I've heard he's. Actually pretty good, but he is being left behind hard
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:33 PM
as shoved aside as he was in 6, from what I know
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:33 PM
He was the single-target delay king until Garland got his LD
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:33 PM
and then he just kinda sputtered and went to bed
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:34 PM
even now his general kit is better than some Lv80 characters without LDs that have ALSO been shat all over (hi Fang)
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:35 PM
Which is pretty unfortunate. It's not like Opera Omnia is so opposed to having characters share mechanics
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:35 PM
since, you know
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:35 PM
/Will Smith pose at Kadaj and Seven
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:37 PM
What gets me is between the two, I'm pretty sure Seven is the more desirable unit? Origin games aside, she's the one with party benefits, including brv and hp damage up, as well as follow-up attack after literally anything happens
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:37 PM
whereas Kadaj seems entirely selfish. I'm not even sure he increases his own HP/BRV damage? I'll have to double check
Tonberry King
@Tazrael
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:45 PM
I know I'd rather hang out with her
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:47 PM
looking at it through Lidz's videos, Kadaj's EX debuff increases BRV damage taken globally it looks like
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:48 PM
So like Jack's or Trey's LD buff
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:48 PM
aside from that and the gold frames he's just a single-target melee attacker in a world that is very, very close to getting Tifa
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:48 PM
Yeeeeaaaah
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:49 PM
And I'm already pretty eh on Tifa
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:51 PM
even comparing him to Seph doesn't feel quite right; the only thing he really has in common with him is that his EX has a 100% gravity/free ability use effect
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:51 PM
he's honestly a little closer to the generic Follow Up Attack Meta swelling forward
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:52 PM
but one with a ~gold frame debuff~
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:52 PM
protip: seph is the second ~gold frame debuff~ :V
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:52 PM
Kadaj synergizes a little better with, like, the proc spheres, since he can gold frame generic bullshit debuffs, but like
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@flare_sword
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:53 PM
very rarely are you going to need a gold frame over a silver; its advantage is mainly vs enemies that dispel their debuffs constantly
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:53 PM
Yeah and I'm just his EX away from having Seph's full kit. He needs the rework
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:53 PM
Actually yeah, that's the one thing his Lufe is built around
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Fri, Jun 4, 2021 11:54 PM
"Have at least one buff on bosses who cleanse every 10% health loss"
Zilla Fieri
@rikimaruhitori
Sat, Jun 5, 2021 12:50 AM
There, I edited the top level to include mention of Type 0 hate
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