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spoiler ramble for A Silent Voice
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it was a good movie
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I just wish that, like...
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there's a really specific emotion that I feel very strongly
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when I do not feel that a character has earned a redemption
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and I can feel the movie starting to treat them as redeemed
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and I hate it
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the story puts so much weight on the notion of Ishida apologizing to Shoko, characters confront him about it, he does it, it's a big emotional scene
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meanwhile Ueno bullies Shoko, steals her hearing aids repeatedly and throws them around the room, blames her for their friend group falling apart, confronts her about it and doesn't let her use her notebook, instead insisting that she lip read through the whole rant
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then physically assaults Shoko immediately following her attempted suicide
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apologizes to her for literally none of it
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and the end of the movie has her just chilling slightly awkwardly with the squad who are like "oh she's just a tsundere"
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she's not a tsundere she's a fucking asshole
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fuck ueno all my homies hate ueno
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oh but it's fine because she had her own sort of complex emotional arc going on and she cared (about ishida, not shoko) in her own way
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you don't get to torment someone for an entire movie and then go "I'm a tsundere now so it's cute" at the end
EsperBot
It's the Sasuke Feeling
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I most recently felt it in The Mitchells vs The Machines
Gabiluzbad
I thought of Gunnerkrigg Court
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yes
EsperBot
There are plenty of other places it comes up but for me it's the Sasuke Feeling because the entire back half of that decades-long series is just watching the series roll inevitably towards it in slow motion
Dragomorph
It does sound like there was a lot of things trimmed back in the movie from the manga which might have at least partially explained Ueno's bullshit
Quinneapolis
maybe
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she just, she never listens to shoko or really tries to understand her on more than an absolute surface level, she never apologizes, she just decides that they're cool now on her own
kamikasei
As I recall my impression was that it seemed very uncomfortably like Shoko was forgiving Ueno for bullying her for being deaf while Ueno was forgiving Shoko for... being deaf, and having needs resulting from that
Quinneapolis
Ueno fucking sicks
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sucks
kamikasei
Like there was a real strong strain of "well you're different to other people and you need to understand that's inconvenient for them, or just makes you stand out, and therefore of course they'll treat you like shit for it, that's only natural, shikata ga nai"
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ueno's big endgame conversation with ishida where she's like "I guess I just wasn't able to like shoko"
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like bruh
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nobody's asking you to like shoko
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we're asking you to apologize for physically and emotionally torturing her for months