Ash!!1
me sitting here dumbfounded that despite my age i never realized the fandom word of 'stan' came from Eminem's song of the same name
Ash!!1
I JUST, SOMEHOW NEVER MADE THAT CONNECTION
ɪᴍ ʙᴀʙᴀꜱʜᴏᴏᴋ
...REALLY
Ash!!1
YEAH APPARENTLY
needlemancer
I THOUGHT IT WAS STAN LEE!
needlemancer
the world is lies
Ash!!1
IT MAKES....SENSE....i just accepted the term coming into being all of sudden
needlemancer
eminem.....
Kyo
.....I didn't know there was a song
Ash!!1
needlemancer
: I SAW IT ON TWITTER AND DIDN'T BELIEVE IT BUT GOOGLED IT AND IT APPEARS TO BE TRUE
IT'S TONI ☂️
I........
IT'S TONI ☂️
....
IT'S TONI ☂️
Ash!!1
Kyo
: IT'S A SONG ABOUT A SUPER OBSESSED STALKER
Celizabeth Hood
YEP!!! LOL
Ash!!1
I THINK I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
.... did
Ash!!1
A CUTESY VERSION OF 'STAND'
Ash!!1
LIKE 'I STAND WITH X'
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
how many of you did not know this.
Ash!!1
BUT NO!!!!
Ash!!1
lacerata: SO MANY OF US
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
oh my god
Pythonmelon
WHAT NOW
Celizabeth Hood
Im in kpop fandom so u run into this argument a lot about why STANNING IS TRULY BAD!!!!!!!!!!!! INCLUDING! THE TERM!
Celizabeth Hood
which true
vast energies
WH IT'S
vast energies
I'M
Celizabeth Hood
its not really a positive image
vast energies
jesus
Ash!!1
i'm crying
Celizabeth Hood
omg
塔露拉·雅特利亞斯
"stan" is literally a pejorative term that's been so successfully commodified everyone forgets it began as an insult
Celizabeth Hood
this is funny
Ash!!1
Eminem - Stan (Short Version) ft. Dido
the song/video for anyone not familiar. cw stalking/suicide and who knows what else it's been a while weep
Ash!!1
GAWD IT'S SO OBVIOUS IN HINDSIGHT
Ash!!1
I JUST NEVER KNEW, FOOLISH
Tentessee
smh can't believe casper the friendly ghost would do such a thing
Celizabeth Hood
murder of pregnant girlfriend also!
Celizabeth Hood
whew!
Celizabeth Hood
what a term!
Ash!!1
whew
Ash!!1
WHEW
vast energies
whew!
Ash!!1
I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED SOMETHING SO OBVIOUS FOR LIKE;;;;; 20 YEARS???
Ash!!1
c r y
Levi
I did not know but tbf I have literally never heard an Eninem song that wasn't Slim Shady in my entire life
vast energies
i only started seeing the term in the last like... 3? 5? years and 'stan' was like an early 2000s song from a white rapper we're all rightfully embarrassed by now so i for one am giving myself a pass for not making the connection
Levi
I had always just assumed it was a modification of the word stand like "I stand with x through and through"
Levi
like I'm serious when I say I did not know the song Stan existed until like 2 months ago
☆ Bun
....I thought it was from a much different source huh
Ash!!1
Levi
: yea see i also thought it was stand but now knowing all this the context makes more sense
Levi
Yeah I always knew it was "stan" but I just assumed it was a whole "language evolves" thing
Ash!!1
vast energies
: i've seen it used online since at least 2014ish? 15?? i think
Levi
like how we can get the name Bill from William
Ash!!1
language is wild
only goes to 11
when I first heard it I thought it was -stan as the suffix for land, like "I stan for X" meaning "this fandom lives rent free in my head"
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
"stan" has definitely taken a different connotation than it originally had!!
dragillionaire
holy shit
Ash!!1
cry!!
dragillionaire
I had no idea
Ash!!1
that said after watching the video again i still really like a lot of eminem's old stuff, no embarrassment
Ash!!1
aggressively plays lose yourself
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
"Stan" the song happen, people start calling super annoying know it all fans "stans", said fans start using that term for themselves and now it just means to support something
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
also STAN IS A REALLY SOLID TUNE AND THE VIDEO IS GREAT
Ash!!1
YEAH that sounds like the nature progression of it
Ash!!1
like again it SEEMS...SO OBVIOUS NOW....
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
/pats
Ash!!1
it just never ever occurred to me and i didn't question it when it became widespread use
Ash!!1
just thought it was a RANDOM WORD
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
language is wild
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
has anyone ever asked eminem what he thinks about this phenomenon
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
and if they have, was the answer "bitch I don't care"?
easy snake oven
Here to also say I still like Em's early stuff too Ash it's OK
Ash!!1
hi5
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
early em is banging
Ash!!1
and yeah i doubt he cares lol. HE RICH AND KEEPING HIS HEAD DOWN, GOOD
easy snake oven
Even the stuff that's uh really bad looking at you "Guilty Conscience"
ｓｔａｒ✯ｂｒｅａｋ！
...I didn't know that
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
this song also introduced me to dido so I hold it special
easy snake oven
Yeah it was given airplay before the Dido song in it even was
PHONY
i knew this but i also hail from kpop fandom hell, so
Autumn Vasch
i didn't know this either
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
I think on a later album there's a followup song from the perspective of Matt, the little brother from Stan
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
me: give me sweet white rapper boi lore
Autumn Vasch
I'M GONNA BE HONEST I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEHOW CONNECTED TO THE GRANDPA IN GRAVITY FALLS
PHONY
hdsfgsgsgfd
Autumn Vasch
just like. cuz he's a shithead but you love him??
Ash!!1
daksfjklf AVIY
Ash!!1
weep well i'm glad i'm not alone in this
PHONY
grunkle stan (pejorative)
Ash!!1
fdjalfdj
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
dahjkkjrhuiasd
PHONY
but yeah stan has lost all of its meaning as "incredibly unhealthy parasocial freak" except for the part where, it really hasn't,
PHONY
just people are happy to embrace the connotations, i guess
𝔪𝔢𝔪𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔬💀𝔪𝔬𝔯𝔞𝔶
ppl so happy to be parasocial stalkers
Autumn Vasch
well i have watched the video now and im just gonna stick with my interpretation
Autumn Vasch
/fingerguns
Ash!!1
WEEP
vast energies
'this but unironically' - fandom
carotid
..............I'm curious about demographics/ages here, I just.
carotid
That song was so prominent in my youth? So I guess I just knew.
Ash!!1
I'm 35!!1
Ash!!1
i'm very familiar with the song but i just never made the connection somehow
Tentessee
when I first saw stan getting big as just a word everyone knows and uses i thought it was like
Tentessee
pledging allergience to the country of (fandom)istan
Ash!!1
fkafjkaf
Tentessee
and later learned some unrelated trivia about the stan music video and was like huh ...... HUH
DoveyPips🔪
I forget what it's called, but he wrote a sequel to Stan too, from the POV of the little bro of Stan who grew up and also bitter at Eminem, ti was really interesting
Tentessee
thought it was a weird thing to identify yourself as either way 
Ash!!1
vast energies
yeah it never occurred to me to connect them because i heard the term used as like, WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO STAN AN ABSOLUTE QUEEN
vast energies
which to me does not imply
vast energies
obsessively write letters and then kill your pregnant girlfriend and yourself
PHONY
dfdsfdsfs
vast energies
we have no choice beyonce [three million murdersuicides]
Comic
having heard this song and knowing things I still never made the connection
Comic
but let it be said that Dido still is catchy af
Ash!!1
still catchy!!1
Ash!!1
AND YEAH IT'S SO FAR REMOVED NOW....
PHONY
this song introduced me to dido and then i didn't like anything of hers as much as the bit this song samples, lol
Comic
yeah that's also true
Celizabeth Hood
same
Celizabeth Hood
but god stan is 20 years old
Celizabeth Hood
current stans are in fact
Celizabeth Hood
that age
Celizabeth Hood
so its not surprising they wouldnt know it but its wild
Ash!!1
its wild!!
Levi
I'm 32, but I was also REMARKABLY isolated from pop culture until my late teens
Levi
Not because I was sheltered from it or anything, but because I had no interest in things like radio or MTV
Autumn Vasch
oh yes i'm 35 but rap was largely considered to be the work of actual satan in my uhhhhhhhhhh very white very christian communities v
v
v
Levi
So I had zero awareness of popular artists that weren't like, literal global sensations like Britney Spears, N'Sync, or Backstreet Boys
Autumn Vasch
i did manage to hear a couple of eminem songs due to the prevalence but not this one
Levi
yeah the only Eminen song I ever heard was Slim Shady I never heard anything else he ever did
Levi
But boy could I tell you about all the popular cartoons/books/video games of the 90's/early 2000's
DoveyPips🔪
PHONY
: the Roswell theme song was my first exposure to Dido and I still love it
only goes to 11
I at least give Eminem credit when the secret service interviewed him for writing threatening lyrics to the Trump Klan he started rapping along to them in interrogation. Like, that's a baller move.
云深不吃素
i thought it was from a britney spears song but i was one of those nerds who took pride in knowing next to nothing about pop culture
Nin is Tired
I knew about this but it was like a few years after it had gotten popular as a normal term and I was just like "huh okay interesting" and just kept using it the fandom accepted way
forwardrelentlessly
i knew this but that's because i went through a huge eminem fan phase and i still like his older stuff
Peil Wiggler
I also knew this but I think specifically bc I too somehow caught wind of The Discourse around people being like YOU KNOW THE ORIGINS OF THIS RIGHT? THIS IS A BAD THING TO IDENTIFY AS
Peil Wiggler
Like personally I'm in the "language evolves" camp so idk what the big deal is but. Also if I ever use it I almost exclusively use it ironically.
𝕚𝕕𝕘𝕚𝕖
I knew this and then forgot but now I know again, thank you