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[Ish] EPISODE 2.5: Turnabout of the Golden Witch. We're doing this, baby!
Niamh Vibes
OH BOY
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...after the zip finishes extracting
Niamh Vibes
I will warn for some big difficulty spikes and some glitches to be wary of
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I'm viewing this as a training arc for the second twilight of Episode 3, since Beato is going to get up to some Fuck Shit considering how Battler almost cornered here.
Niamh Vibes
a;lwkjf;lskd
Niamh Vibes
Save often, also
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(Still on my bullshit about Kumasawa dying of natural causes which is why Beato can't say they were all homicides.)
sailor bii
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Oh I already adore this
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https://images.plurk.com/1iPWLRwvux09rp8OCzvocr.png
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rip battler https://images.plurk.com/6Arki8FhjEiTWPCGJbqXlb.png
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i'm a big fan of the slightly crunchy umineko ost they're using here
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if battler is fresh off episode 2... yeah, https://images.plurk.com/1o9bu87OOU5eLVmD9dQswm.png \
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i can HEAR sayaka ohara's delivery here https://images.plurk.com/4ATRINAJmLoZFCesxZJYcM.png
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ohohohoho https://images.plurk.com/3gSs0tG5nUAj4xg58b7PhL.png
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OHOHOHOHOHO https://images.plurk.com/7i6Q74MIdksr08XOurWUJP.png
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noted https://images.plurk.com/6HwX5H6nMIyWikoFQSdHIQ.png
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"Usol, huh... that's a pretty weird name. Then again, I'm in no position to talk." it wouldn't be battler if he didn't gripe about his name every opportunity he got
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egg
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"Admittedly, I don't know much about law... but I don't think Beato does, either." that's never an obstacle in ace attorney games
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no fucking about, then https://images.plurk.com/2KdRY5pwB27JlZXB7o7nN4.png
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canned laughter in the background https://images.plurk.com/2gAYsjgbFEZEoUxyI7B6K6.png
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so we're going full fgo style for this huh https://images.plurk.com/7eUoorjw1304hkxzOcU43.png
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there are a lot of layers here https://images.plurk.com/5PJmnQNR2LvFS2OJwH6Bn1.png
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oh hell yes https://images.plurk.com/5ahz7VdVpWXBGoYxanvAok.png
Niamh Vibes
gotta have an assistant to sit next to
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"Is that legal?"
"I don't see why not." is another fundamental rule of the series
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oooh the jury are goats
Niamh Vibes
the extra sprite work is so good
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i am absolutely not prepared but here we go anyways! https://images.plurk.com/51g7iOtsXXhLN1b2dn6Cr9.png
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battler's sprite is very good https://images.plurk.com/4KZdoWMb0S7jfxby359uPh.png
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sorry i. i need to sit down. fuck i'm already sitting down. uh. fuck. fuck https://images.plurk.com/2mttpZASOJC0nL6CKOO2rQ.png
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l
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lady bhot
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well we have the badge at least https://images.plurk.com/22pr7sbkrkXQY3oT9tO3hF.png
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tpg;dfskjkijwdfk oh my GOD beato https://images.plurk.com/4h2Id7WvJsyPPSADaLFEMZ.png
Niamh Vibes
IMMEDIATELY OWNED
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i loveodyhasjwfsdf her https://images.plurk.com/2lVqKNtqR3vWAoR2lRN9n5.png
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HOW IS SHE SO HOT https://images.plurk.com/4R7H9pjBqfrnfP9hPj12v8.png
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also yessss i love this track
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cade avere huh https://images.plurk.com/66tMSYL9VHPQwjVKWBc9dW.png
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well fuck https://images.plurk.com/676aowbmaIa8GaoucnH46v.png
Niamh Vibes
Limited to the human realm
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...yep. https://images.plurk.com/70xVHNWFFY90z0mOVjjRa1.png
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oh he looks like a fucker https://images.plurk.com/6IoHzt17ANue6WCkxLwys.png
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oh he's the DETECTIVE
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so he would also fit the description of "someone the victim trusted" huh https://images.plurk.com/6MxL8KBuYB5FDub89cS6GT.png
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ha ha very funny https://images.plurk.com/3RfsLTEayrcQu5oi7vGZL9.png
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wink wink nudge nudge https://images.plurk.com/5OG8hucGHnzlklAb1INqQ1.png
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hhhhhhhhhuh https://images.plurk.com/4ym6KzMsMV6U5bv0IdvB3e.png
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also god luther is basically ronove isn't he
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4tfjiowu90wdzfk HIS FACE https://images.plurk.com/3KPSdOoZr9Myn6mTIbEM9k.png
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"We have something of a history, yeah." https://images.plurk.com/2Hv9heNLYB7vEZtVRXLpIk.png
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DEFINITELY
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"I won't let her beat me ag-" https://images.plurk.com/415Bv3V41qjvNojyuLfz2m.png
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battler,,,,
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god this is immensely entertaining so far
Niamh Vibes
the tone and characterization.... a+
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any time someone says "would've died instantly" in AA it's bound to be relevant
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hmmm https://images.plurk.com/1bhhDwM3oPfqP8ekYYDpSg.png
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that was a pretty solid testimony
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we're going to need to press
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sad trombone in the distance, https://images.plurk.com/4kvbwgrq189ftP4gzEes6e.png
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meaning that battler is getting flashbacks lmao https://images.plurk.com/7CNlLN5oLr4Mg9Ca6gIX6p.png
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what if you had a corpse with you https://images.plurk.com/41S5V3uurQylBJOcR9NMa3.png
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that matched the fingerprint
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victim was rendered unconscious via sleeping pills before his death huh
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right battler is from the 1980s fingerprint locks would be WILD to him
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that seems VERY important https://images.plurk.com/61YmoX8s6bNGlUZZ5Pid2O.png
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i love her cackling sprite https://images.plurk.com/6dwYf2HzNtR1CJYL7BHSk1.png
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tfihjdlshawdfjs https://images.plurk.com/7xeGhxvGYOqHGIDosuh3ik.png
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assuming a frictionless art museum-
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okay all the evidence is gathered time for beato to gloat
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evelyn is a great character, props to ronove for writing her
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"I'm not sure I like the sound of that, personally.?"
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By putting Cade to sleep using the sleeping pills and having his finger be used to open the secondary door. https://images.plurk.com/2irN8QZrotsu9czVBW7Kp0.png
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"The lock on that entrance is foolproof" https://images.plurk.com/DW5vPfpGrcdCdkPTbaujU.png
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i love beato
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irfidjksgflasdkflj https://images.plurk.com/2v5YJxmPyXjSv3YMTJBxoc.png
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...the second kind of locked room. Horses, not zebras. https://images.plurk.com/2fP3eQGBsg1UrP7Hh5k8hy.png
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yep https://images.plurk.com/1uCgLVHNgPJJJSOd8uN67o.png
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Interesting https://images.plurk.com/3yB2XFQ7IVfiiVTncwQncS.png
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oh this is a really good line of reasoning
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oh this music BOPS https://images.plurk.com/4LSJ0SFLLtWS0P3EElKPLL.png
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well fuck https://images.plurk.com/613tY9YbSVti6AV6p5EtiG.png
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i love battler https://images.plurk.com/6qzOO8azcqVu0M2o0zLwUw.png
✶ 天鈿女命
that's my lad
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NO FUCKING CAMERAS? https://images.plurk.com/6dSqTur2DceU9YbLzvcEGt.png
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tfdhjasasdfk https://images.plurk.com/21ioeYdeYjZZY2M3nPXdnp.png
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our client was a painter? https://images.plurk.com/44o2DqV2NXB9vH9Us5E294.png
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aw, evelyn... https://images.plurk.com/36JWe0WUzdZo0KlVJ1Q7Nf.png
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Mmm. Not sure about that. https://images.plurk.com/1PuU5jkZsrSwVgekqBoFqB.png
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The first floor was the last one checked.
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well PHOENIX can bullshit out of his ass but not battler it seems
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"No enclosed rooms?" What about the bathrooms?
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OH C'MON TALKING ABOUT THE BATHROOMS TOTALLY SHOULD'VE WORKED
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fucking RIP battler this is hysterical https://images.plurk.com/4TguuhPCV4PmLKzJEqZrCG.png
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this is a very complicated testimony
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so the order was 3>2>1
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luther watched the elevators at the first and second floors
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not sure about the third yet
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"Thanks, little lady." https://images.plurk.com/118zMLlnD8i0xMHARLWzDD.png
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jkasdfjueiwfds
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Which means the culprit could've used the elevator here. https://images.plurk.com/3HXTVPsmaFSnbUxTQvRKwc.png
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holy shit this part of the game is HARD
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it doesn't really give me a solid direction to go in
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and i can't spot any obvious contradictions in the evidence
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gonna eat dinner then attack this again
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if anybody has any tips hit me up
Rama
I'm having to try to remember how this actually worked even though I played it 48 hours ago.
Rama
So yeah it's complicated
Rama
Without getting too detailed, make sure to look at the floor plan carefully
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like the thing is ultimately there are a LOT of ways this could play out
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like my best guess is:
1. The culprit started on the second floor, in Hall B.
2. When Hawkeye moved to Hall B, they moved to Hall C, and on until the culprit reached Hall A.
3. Because Hall A blocks off sight from the elevator to the hallways, Luther couldn't have seen them.
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But when I put this in (i.e. "was on the second floor when they were searching the second floor in Hall B, was on the second floor when they were searching the second floor in Hall A") it gave me the typical "haha it's so obvious do i really need to spell it out for you" text that means that I got it wrong
Rama
I could give you more advice but ultimately even in my memory I run into the traditional Ace Attorney problem of
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Is my thinking entirely wrong here?
Rama
"I know what the answer is, how the fuck does the game want me to explain it?"
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YEAH lmao
Rama
Your thinking is not entirely wrong
Rama
I do recall not directly Presenting, but using the Q&A at the end of one of the testimony strings to advance
Rama
If that helps
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WAIT I THINK I GOT IT
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They started in the bathrooms, then when Hawkeye moved to check Hall B, they hid in Hall A.
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Let's see if this works.
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I THINK I DID IT THE MUSIC IS PLAYING https://images.plurk.com/1a5ImFJh46lojAWf4rXvlH.png
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yeah the big misstep there was that battler said the culprit wanted to move as little as possible
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with this they could move exactly once and be gucci
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OH FUCK OFF https://images.plurk.com/dw3aMJ4lH5IgIjsBathL6.png
Rama
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at least this is progress
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MODIFYING THE TESTIMONY PHEW https://images.plurk.com/1tey49W2qrpMyJgsc4yCJc.png
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OKAY DOUBLE PRESENTING
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THE TETRIS, IF THEY PROPPED THE DOOR OPEN-
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I FUCKING KNEW IT, THANK YOU FOR THIS HYPE MUSIC GAME https://images.plurk.com/2h8srLDnFR44kxWIolCAVm.png
Rama
Hehe, "block" the doors
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FUCK YESSSSSS https://images.plurk.com/6XD2i7zT0ccDWjB1o86tBd.png
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yeeeeeeeeeeeeeHAW https://images.plurk.com/514dnK5LUdBNrCN4lvhrGp.png
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oh this is a classic one https://images.plurk.com/2Wx8stYlNQqA4nOBapq6at.png
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yep here we go https://images.plurk.com/7fUDyvnlxiSsVXlQjUxy9v.png
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i love her https://images.plurk.com/2av6Yetn0ejWYOvPSytkfN.png
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LOOSER https://images.plurk.com/3V5QoC4g5WRg6vCMatmMyh.png
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I'D SAY THAT'S PRETTY GOD DAMN NECESSARY
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doesn't this sound familiar- wait, can't you use the keycard https://images.plurk.com/5uhIPNOpP9fzeAIOjFaPhy.png
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o rnot
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YEAH??? https://images.plurk.com/adzQWsTi5E3Yw9vorSdk4.png
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evelyn is just so fucking done
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Interesting... https://images.plurk.com/48ZsE5027Cz8eVvNZR5sSV.png
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"Unless the culprit is Sa-" KJFAOIWDKSASDF
Rama
The judge will not tolerate any slander of his alter ego
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...wasn't this found inside the victim's room? https://images.plurk.com/5eYoHU0iQAjAHULmeKzrAq.png
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WAIT, HE WAS COMPLETELY UNCONSCIOUS
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THAT MEANS HIS THEORY IS-
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the problem is that i see plenty of places where this testimony doesn't make sense
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but the game isn't letting me go there yet
Rama
Yeah I didn't notice it, but unless we're both misremembering a detail, you're completely right
Rama
The court record entry for the pistol doesn't say where it was found though so I guess it doesn't count
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OH THE LINE OF SIGHT DOESN'T LINE UP
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LET'S TEST THAT-
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YES
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"Well, I'm not sure now is the time to be discussing the victim's emotional state." HELLO????
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THERE WE GO https://images.plurk.com/5AkIfkF4Efw9J5D7YBb7Lq.png
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BUSTING OPEN THE DOOR MOVED THE BODY https://images.plurk.com/4UvdbZ8k3ZN2oVuqqPHM3Y.png
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or rather it would have
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IF THE BODY WAS THERE AT ALL
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"The scene is changed by the door opening" is of my favorite closed room tricks if I'm being completely honest
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or not lmao
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yeah it is really solid
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yeah that's the problem https://images.plurk.com/6XvSMOVwSgJjUeRyU12Hej.png
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BUT HE COULDN'T HAVE MOVED BECAUSE OF THE DRUGS, JACKASS
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LET ME POINT THAT OUT ALREADY
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ohohoho? https://images.plurk.com/4Etsm9QhbZodwrk75Cs2yU.png
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oh. oh YEAH https://images.plurk.com/7wwthvdre1Lqj28Gt9x4pS.png
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YEEEEEEEEEHAW https://images.plurk.com/3dplKWQrFh8bTEBF5lGZgn.png
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what about a second shot https://images.plurk.com/3vOLX8s9S3Q6AYTSm8dwCB.png
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or not https://images.plurk.com/6My19uaPcKkPl07k3S1ALm.png
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god i LOVE evelyn she's great https://images.plurk.com/4Q2t4jLnfkubhziLhAuCrJ.png
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THIS IS IT
Rama
I have two warnings about the next part if you want them
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ohhh is this his lawyer gimmick? https://images.plurk.com/3u3vWoBqrIxhuRgdBDMFda.png
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please yes
Rama
OKAY
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i noticed it saved at the start, so
Rama
So, it autosaves because manual saves during this bit don't work
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okay
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what else
Rama
You'll need to present twice during this bit. The second time, you need three pieces of evidence, not two.
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oh christ
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this is gonna be hard
Rama
It's kinda bullshit actually, so if you need another hint I can give a more specific one
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starting from a good place at least https://images.plurk.com/NC2enreoxmK3iGOz12ncg.png
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i want to see if i can figure it out myself first
Rama
Third hint, this music is from Transistor. That's not relevant to anything, Transistor just has an amazing soundtrack.
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What could they have used to mask it- the missing curtain!
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wait, no
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THE FIREPLACE
Rama
The curtain was my first thought too lmao
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....there was a second gun
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KNEW IT https://images.plurk.com/S4YkKoJJTffthAL3aHuie.png
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i reloaded just in case because i was pair of noid
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...turned the fireplace on... https://images.plurk.com/6atXKwfRgB0mwI4OY9md5Q.png
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That missing curtain was definitely used somehow...
Niamh Vibes
This is a gimmick in the newer games too but they aren’t this PUNISHING
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This is an interesting trick, that's for sure.
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Let's look at it this way.
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The bullet DEFINITELY hit inside the fireplace. We know that for sure.
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There's a curtain missing, which is likely part of the trick.
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You said I need a triple present for this one, right, Nerdo?
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i'm trying so fucking hard to mind palace my way through this one but it's driving me up the wall
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this of course means i HAVE to figure it out myself
Rama
It is a triple present. I won't give any further hints unless you ask unambiguously.
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hokay
Rama
But for the record, it is bullshit
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also thank you for doing that
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it's umineko of course it's bullshit
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wait
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the door to the roof doesn't have a lock
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if you exit the crime scene and the window was completely broken, you could go in-
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use a curtain as a rope to swing in-
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I'm pretty sure this is it, even if the crime scene diagram specifically is wrong. https://images.plurk.com/6wiydN2A7U22mjHb37Eg7v.png
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I will ask for an explicit hint: is my general line of thinking correct? I don't want to spend forever trying and failing to put together the evidence based on a wrong assumption.
Rama
I will tell you this: the roof is involved, but the Exterior is not a correct piece of evidence to present
Rama
That's what was tripping me up
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gotcha :thumbsup:
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I DID IT! THE TAPESTRIES AND THE CURTAIN- https://images.plurk.com/6FZ8nhUmBcsncxG9VImRtv.png
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GOD I LOVE A GOOD OL' FASHIONED BATTLER SPEECH https://images.plurk.com/1QB2r09AHF5LcstTDXu4um.png
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YEEEEEAH https://images.plurk.com/14N62128ej1YAO3657MxID.png
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FCUK YES BATTLER'S THEME
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oh that's a GOOD burn https://images.plurk.com/6VlacL5nF2IKjdUReaBhtj.png
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YEP https://images.plurk.com/7zufAEtz9EeAkrAQTLAXKa.png
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...ah, this also works https://images.plurk.com/70sar55VvZJ6TPJvuoF8E1.png
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That explains how it disappeared, too
Rama
I liked your swashbuckling rope swing, even if that's not what Battler's going with
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oh GOD https://images.plurk.com/5OxKRQALcQiXBZUOSzzTLq.png
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YEP https://images.plurk.com/7FnhQ8EfpzRKJAopaPj1ls.png
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rip, https://images.plurk.com/72LoUFwFydx1sBmNnJTgIc.png
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oh yeah beato is absolutely going to come up with another gambit lol
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oh i LOVE her https://images.plurk.com/79oBZ8Yx4ZnQGrs1d8xf9n.png
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can't really blame her for being angry https://images.plurk.com/1n6o40TzF6nidBbkN3mtC2.png
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fdasipfj840wz https://images.plurk.com/2QHYq4TnW3RUX6kSXgsKBm.png
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OH I LOVE HER https://images.plurk.com/2HIPnOtMZXA6A4qUQpbOfk.png
Rama
This is the best fan characterization of Battler I've ever seen tbh. Especially the part where they leave out the boob jokes on purpose.
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YEAH THAT IS PRETTY IMPORTANT https://images.plurk.com/2kBym4l20EZArRJQ91tjIt.png
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so she's the real dellaluna right https://images.plurk.com/5vAaIM8OTnQxnTflf2vP1o.png
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OH I GET IT
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It's all a scam. He created a new lost painter from thin air and kept its real authorship in the dark to drive up its value, using Evelyn...
lily!
But he got tired of the charade, hence her name on the brochure. He would've revealed that she was the real auteur.
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Somebody else found out, then killed him.
lily!
that sure as hell isn't what they said https://images.plurk.com/2CvuR9I7O9HDFvN1ahOhwO.png
Rama
Art fraud, the second bougiest of crimes
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