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So I've been reading a bunch of mysteries and they all have some sort of background noise to offset the mystery part
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like a wedding to plan or a character on vacation or it just being part of their job
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and this """mystery"""" that I am writing has...none of that. and actually it's all he thinks about but for the life of me I can't figure out what background noise there should be
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at the beginning it was about getting this award but
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mind this is still in the rough draft stage but
Pen Again
/cheers on
Exacerangutan
hmm
Exacerangutan
I'm pondering if that's a thing necessary to mysteries, or just a convention
Exacerangutan
I can see that maybe you need something grounding the story in Regular Life?
Exacerangutan
but idk I haven't thought about mysteries that much
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Well it is his regular life he's just hyper focused on it and I'm afraid that it maeks it too claustrophobic
Exacerangutan
i mean from a writing/structural perspective
Exacerangutan
well, maybe that's the B Story, in save the cat terms
Exacerangutan
that the mc is too hyperfocused and needs to open up a bit to get inspiration for cracking the mystery or something like that
Exacerangutan
(I'm purely brainstorming here, I don't really know your mc XD )
ChickletLARP
Not a mystery fan myself, but I would have guessed it would be a combination of obfuscating important things, gving a reason why the mc has certain odd skills, and also a way to drop in a mix of chekov's guns and red herrings?
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but I was ehhing because he's basically Aziraphale only human so it's... just like a 50 Shades of Grey sort of carbon copy with less smut and no particular talent
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Well the problem is not that he lacks the motivation or the know how
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it's just that every chapter revolves around it
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like in this one I'm reading the character is trying to plan a wedding and someone ends up dead
Exacerangutan
I'd suggest inverting it
Exacerangutan
i.e. he's hyperfocused on the mystery and his real life "interrupts"
Exacerangutan
which can be a vehicle for learning 1. there's more to life than the mystery, and 2. things outside the mystery can be a source of inspiration for how to address the mystery
Exacerangutan
or something like that XD
Exacerangutan
I think maybe in the first draft it doesn't really matter, since it's more about the framework of "mc wants to do the mystery and gets dragged into other things" and then in edits you can massage it so the Real Life things rhyme with the mystery in subtle ways?
Exacerangutan
which the mc doesn't pick up on at first because he's so preoccupied and not really being present
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you mean finish the damn thing first and edit it later? >>
Exacerangutan
XD
Exacerangutan
advice I should listen to ever
Exacerangutan
a little more specifically than "just do it!!!" advice, tho, I mean that the things that interrupt the mystery are the kind of details you'll want to come back and tweak later anyway XD
Exacerangutan
so getting it Exactly Right the first time through doesn't really inform the structure of the story to follow, so much as the final structure of the story informs what the details should be
Exacerangutan
if that makes sense
Squad Mom
I just finished a free class on detective fiction and the first two types we looked at didn't have the 'background noise' story in them.
CChuuni
My mystery trilogy almost has the mystery as the background noise
CChuuni
Because it's centered on genderflipped Me/Kyle/Moosey and commentary on police culture and Worcester and unhealthy habits
CChuuni
It's like "Oh right, there's a MURDER MYSTERY AND MORE going on but ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
CChuuni
"You're here for the motorcycle cop with migraines dating his sis' bff and going to anime conventions, RIGHT?"
CChuuni
/pets
CChuuni
- FWIW: having read more mysteries than like
CChuuni
I think anyone >>;
CChuuni
YEAH PROBABLY ANYONE
CChuuni
the "background noise" as you will is to separate it from literally ALL THE REST
CChuuni
and make you give a damn about the characters etc.
CChuuni
also IN MY SPECIFIC CASE: I have to do it like this because otherwise I suck at the mystery part
CChuuni
Just like "HEY THIS GUY MURDERED THIS GUY AND NOW CONSEQUENCES MUST HAPPEN" probably basically Law & Order style now that I think of it
CChuuni
also because as a general rule of thumb since I started writing my rule is "add more ships'
CChuuni
= $
CChuuni
SO THAT'
CChuuni
Completely opposite the Agatha Christie and British mystery rule
CChuuni
Yes but if you add them in, it's easier to publish/sell fast (though not necessarily longevity)
CChuuni
Never add anything, characters, interactions, etc. that isn't specifically to do with the mystery plot
CChuuni
Sort of Anton Checkov
CChuuni
I don't like it
CChuuni
JKR keeps trying to call back to it and the more she does, the more she sucks
CChuuni
NGL I don't read/watch plays to connect dots WITH NO OTHER DOTS ON THE BOARD
CChuuni
I, like most people, read/watch to have fun
CChuuni
So just enjoy yourself 1st and foremost
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and I do except when I worry about everything so never
CChuuni
/pet try to just enjoy it and don't worry about being distinctive because
CChuuni
I've read your fucking stuff
CChuuni
You can't contain it
CChuuni
It explodes on you
CChuuni
So focusing on your chemicals is fine, I have no doubt you will accidentally add the fireworks when you don't think you are
CChuuni
>>
CChuuni
I MEAN THAT IN A GOOD WAY AND LIKE MY MOM BUT AFFECTIONATELY AND GOOD??????
CChuuni
But like Remedy
CChuuni
And your Ineffable, and your Coco
CChuuni
:33333333333333333333333333
CChuuni
:33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333
CChuuni
Ikr
CChuuni
:33333333333333333333
CChuuni
I am here for this /VIBRATES
CChuuni
INJECT IT INTO MY VEINS LIKE SOY
CChuuni
but without the soy that would make me stop breahting
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but I need to finish this last chapter of the goddamn good omens christmas fic XD
CChuuni
I believe in you /sparkle sparkle
CChuuni
CChuuni
Because you're AMAZING AND THE BESTEST (second bestest after me B-))
CChuuni
<33333333
CChuuni
>:| Not cute. grrr
CChuuni
I'm not even sure how round it is right now, I've been a mess all year but everyone has been mwahahahahha
CChuuni
/HUFFFFFFFFF
CChuuni
/huff
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