lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
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[Fate/] there is absolutely nothing funnier to me than artoria insisting that she doesn't hate mordred
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
LIKE
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
BITCH REALLY
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
REALLY
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
honestly
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
i believe it
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
it's so fucking stupid that it crosses over from sad to funny
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:37 AM
because i feel like hate would like
SILKY🌸
@palkia
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
she doesn't though
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
if she hated mordred, at least mordred would matter.
SILKY🌸
@palkia
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
at all
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
instead it's just a total indifference.
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
god, yeah, that's a fair point
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
and that would chafe at mordred even more, i think.
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
it's just like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:38 AM
and that is part of mordred's complex just the complete and total indifference and that is true
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:39 AM
it's just, like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:39 AM
idk
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:39 AM
something i keep coming back to whenever i think of this weird fucked relationship is that
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:39 AM
goddess rhongomyniad
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:39 AM
waifu mufasa herself
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:39 AM
let certified crazy fucker reversal tristan into the holy city
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:39 AM
like, a big thing about arturia is that, while she was alive... wasn't really capable of hate.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
which is like.
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
but refused to let mordred in
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
oh yeah i believe that!
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
i'm talking exclusively like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
in fate/ verse this directly led to the fall of camelot
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
post-aliveness artoria here
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
lmao
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:40 AM
tristan: yo guys our king literally doesn't have emotions, what the FUCK
other knights: mmm yeah that's fucked, we're out
lancelot: so does this mean it's time to fuck my king's wife
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:41 AM
yeah like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:41 AM
i probably should've clarified a bit more
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:41 AM
specifically for like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:41 AM
servant artoria
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:41 AM
...and specifically post /sn artoria since she apparently keeps her /sn memories in /go
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:42 AM
artoria is... a special case
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:42 AM
yeah
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:42 AM
it's implied that she would have her f/z and f/sn memories in any summoning
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:42 AM
because she wasn't properly recorded as a servant until after the fifth fuyuki war
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:42 AM
because she was still, technically, alive
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:42 AM
because that was technically part of her "life"
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:42 AM
anyways, like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:43 AM
yeah alive artoria did not hate mordred
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:43 AM
and i don't think servant artoria thinks she hates mordred either
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:43 AM
but to me, i just, idk
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:44 AM
there's a difference between "cold indifference no matter what" and "i am so indifferent that it is purposefully cruel whether i realize it or not"
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:44 AM
idk?
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:44 AM
i'm probably reading things wrong here since i don't have All The Information
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:44 AM
but that's what i keep returning to based on what i have read
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@lollichop
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:46 AM
yeah i don't think she hates mordred but she's sure the fuck not doing them any favors by whatever the hell she IS doing
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:46 AM
i don't think she feels hate, which... i think, again, is more damaging to mordred than hate would be,
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
@lollichop
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:46 AM
exactly
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:46 AM
and like
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:47 AM
let's be perfectly fair here.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:48 AM
artoria has like... mordred's existence would be traumatizing if artoria was capable of processing emotions in any way that wasn't extreme repression.
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:48 AM
yeah 100%! i agree there!
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:49 AM
i'm not, like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:49 AM
articulating myself well
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:49 AM
since i agree with 100% of these points but like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:49 AM
words on what i actually mean are
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:49 AM
hard
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:49 AM
valid
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:49 AM
just, i do think arturia does genuinely not hate mordred, because hate requires more emotional capability than arturia has.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:50 AM
she doesn't even express hate towards fucking gilgamesh, just normal hostility of the 'one of us is gonna have to kill each other' variety
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
@lastbastion
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:54 AM
(joke answer: the greatest hostility she has displayed is to gawain and his mashed potatoes)
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:54 AM
i feel like hate is, like, a bad word for what i'm trying to express here
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:54 AM
not hate, but, like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 3:55 AM
if regret was angry but in a repressed way?
Princess Emily
@deerleisure
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 4:02 AM
...disappointment?
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 4:02 AM
no that's not it either
Princess Emily
@deerleisure
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 4:02 AM
"I'm not angry. Just disappointed." -the daddest thing to say
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 4:02 AM
not even disappointed when there-
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 4:02 AM
gah it's hard to describe
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 4:02 AM
there's a reason why i'm having a hard time getting across my point
Hazard Kitten
@RShini
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:41 AM
she's honestly really hostile to Mordred in the first summer event
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:44 AM
yeah that's what provoked this chain of thought
Hazard Kitten
@RShini
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:51 AM
I think Artoria kind of sees Mordred as like a living reminder of her "weakness"
SILKY🌸
@palkia
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:55 AM
tbf mordred also spends the summer event being largely a. ragingly stupid and b. actively contrary to everything saber suggests so it's more "you're reflecting poorly on my knights as a whole"
SILKY🌸
@palkia
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:55 AM
she's a jerk to her but it's mostly for comedy
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:55 AM
okay, yeah, that makes a lot more sense
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:56 AM
this is why i said that i wasn't communicating effectively because i hadn't seen all of the context
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:56 AM
gdi mordred why does everyone love you so much it would be so much easier to effectively dunk on you if it was easier to learn all your lore
SILKY🌸
@palkia
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 5:56 AM
she literally stole prydwen for her summer weapon as a fuck you dad she isn't out there helping her cause
Tonberry King
@Tazrael
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:42 AM
I do love all the art of the Lancer Arturias actually treating Mordred with respect, but like weird off handed respect
Tonberry King
@Tazrael
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:43 AM
https://i.imgur.com/xQn7hzm.jpg
Tonberry King
@Tazrael
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:44 AM
https://imgs.plurk.com/QzJ/xue/EMNBeMEQ5nbCOlZE5MAzezI5kpc_lg.jpg
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@lollichop
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:45 AM
that's their goblin
Tonberry King
@Tazrael
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:47 AM
but it's truthfully just fandom wish fulfillment
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:47 AM
honestly if lartoria is, like
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:47 AM
only one or two steps from waifu mufasa
lily!
@aerialism
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:48 AM
she would probably treat mordred with even more casual disinterest/scorn
Tonberry King
@Tazrael
Wed, Mar 10, 2021 6:49 AM
also echoing above sentiment about lore: wife and I really want to see an Arthurian legends adaptation starring the fate versions
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