Guardian Bear J
I really, REALLY want to know if there's anyone in Japan that actually likes the Bozja experience. This whole area may be the worst thing that's happened in FF14... There is not one shred of it that is actually fun.
Jøʟтεøη
I have a lot of friends who love Bozja so idefk.
Jøʟтεøη
And I'm still on the fence if I like Bozja or Eureka less.
Guardian Bear J
Bozja, no question whatsoever.
Guardian Bear J
I'm not putting it past people to like some aspects of it, but as a whole, I just... cannot understand anyone seeing the appeal.
Jøʟтεøη
I think it just boils down to preferred play style.
Jøʟтεøη
Like I hated that Eureka forced me to be dependent on being in a group to get much progress at all, when you can enter it all by yourself and not be placed in a party like, say, PvP does.
Jøʟтεøη
I need to experience more of Bozja before I make any decisions on how I feel about it, though.
Guardian Bear J
I wasn't big on Eureka, but I could at least tune it out and listen to music or something. Bozja, every single major fight has insta-death mechanics, or major damage components. God forbid it's your first time in there, nobody explains mechanics which will kill you immediately.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
idk Eureka seemed so much worse imo
Jøʟтεøη
I'm willing to admit that Eureka got better by the very end, but that took a while.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
oh.. yeah the instadeath mechanics suck
Jøʟтεøη
Instadeath mechanics often suck. =A= I am dislike.
Jøʟтεøη
I accept them in Trials lmao
Guardian Bear J
I actually liked the first Eureka. The second one was awful and I have no desire to set foot in there again. The third Eureka was... eh. And the final Eureka area was just a non-issue unless you wanted to do Baldesion Arsenal. Which I did NOT.
Guardian Bear J
The 24 man Bozja raid has insta death in EVERY FIGHT.
Jøʟтεøη
I would love to experience BA once, but I've seen it and it's intense.
Guardian Bear J
Fuck that instance hard, I feel confident that NOBODY'S gonna be running it except a few die-hards by the time the expac's done.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
yes, that's why I hate that 24 man... and you have to farm it for Relic
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
I'm not sure how I feel re: Eureka/Bozja which is better, but I will say FUCK DR
Jøʟтεøη
Can you not just farm other 24mans?
I şĥĩp ĩţ
oh yeah, it's gonna die so fast
Guardian Bear J
Not for that relic step, I don't think.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
nope
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
that
Jøʟтεøη
I have a friend who's been talking about spamming one of the Ivalice raids so idefk. XD
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
that doom mechanic
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
can burn in hell
I şĥĩp ĩţ
that or PotD floor 100+
Jøʟтεøη
I've basically turned my back on relics and pretended they didn't exist because nothx work.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
this is after the raid part
Guardian Bear J
Oh yeah, PotD 100, something I didn't even want to do when it was CURRENT CONTENT.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
after the memories you gotta get artifacts
I şĥĩp ĩţ
15 runs of Boja 24 man
Guardian Bear J
Anyway, I gotta run to work. I'm just cranky as hell after a DR run.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
I'm on... 4
Guardian Bear J
15 runs PER RELIC.
I şĥĩp ĩţ
yes
Guardian Bear J
That step is going to need serious revision really quick.
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
I flipped DR off for the relic and just ran PotD and dealt with rng
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
took a while but just ran 51-100 in matched groups till I finally got it
I şĥĩp ĩţ
and the fact that you don't get any mettle at the end pisses me off too
I şĥĩp ĩţ
so you pretty much just lose
Jøʟтεøη
I enjoy PotD so that would probably be my avenue.
Ken
Eureka actually went over pretty well in Japan, if i recall. Even at its worst for us. So, like.
Probably.
[ mae ]
I feel like the odd one because I genuinely enjoy DR. Haven't touched savage yet, but I dunno, the 24 man has been enjoyable to go through. I really dig the fights and some of the new mechanics are downright favorites for me now. But I can understand also it being not liked or popular.
Guardian Bear J
I can say, without hesitation, that if it weren't for the instant death mechanics, everything in DR would be fun as heck (Except maybe the second boss being a major tank 'n spank)
Guardian Bear J
But getting screwed by a server tic and making a single mistake resulting in immediate death even at full health? That kind of bunk is inexcusable in savage content, let alone something they expect you to farm.
Guardian Bear J
Making an occasional mistake should be punishing but recoverable.
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Agreed in that I would really like DR (if a little exhausted by it being longer than other 24 mans) if not for doom
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
I couldn't learn any mechanics since I was dead on the floor half the time to things I didn't understand
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Most of the bosses were pretty cool, the mechanics I could parse were mostly cool
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
But as casual going into this, mandatory for just continuing the relic, it was frustrating as hell. Two hit KO should not be a thing in normal mode.
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
When I did it, I think my party had one, two deaths to just dying to too much damage, the whole time? The rest, doom. Over and over. Which meant the bosses took forever since there were lots of dead people and then when they were rezzed, had weakness
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Like just. The temperature mechanic in the second to last boss? I finally thought I got it but then something dropped me dead all of a sudden and I couldn't see or figure out what, and no one could tell me
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
Sure, have that shit in savage if you want, but this is normal mode and mandatory for relics, which is supposed to be grind meant for casuals to get a fancy weapon since they don't do savage
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
people will say "well you just gotta git gud and stop being a casual" and "stop complaining about the 24 man grind because this is meant to be casual content" in the same breath regarding this
ᴡᴀᴋᴇ.
/deep breath. Sorry I have a lot of feelings about this LOL
spooky mingos
Oh i love baja blast...
spooky mingos
I legit love learning how to deal w/ the mechanics
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