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[game grumps] i'm watching ross react to the super ross world playthrough and here i am with a hot take
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when Ross is complaining about Arin not seeing shit and playing the level 'wrong'
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I am 100% on Arin's side
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like ross is getting so worked up about him not using the reset doors to go back to the start
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it's costing him like ten seconds who cares
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the player is not privy to the thoughts of the designer
RobotApocalypse
yeah the reset doors in the boomerang bro level aren't entirely clear as doors that can or should be entered
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it took multiple cycles before I even spotted the door he was losing his mind about them not seeing
RobotApocalypse
yeah same
moontouched
also to be frank
it's made by ross
i would not trust convenient doors
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ross's new levels are much more fair than his old levels
moontouched
true, but still
moontouched
i'd hesitate at least
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like once you release your level to the public
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the "correct" way to play it is now whatever way beats the stage
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even if arin spent an entire minute of wasted time not noticing your minor convenience features, or misinterpreted a mechanic the first two times he attempted it
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you can't be that caught up on how they're doing it Right or Wrong
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they're having fun playing your game
moontouched
yeah it's the 'no plan survives contact with the enemy' of game design

sometimes people will do it in the way you don't expect and that's fine as long as they can finish
moontouched
and have fun doing it
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he's like WHY ARE YOU THROWING YOUR LIVES AWAY
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because you gave him 80 of them, ross
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they are not a concern
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everyone's like YOU FOOL ROSS, YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW STUPID ARIN CAN BE TO FUCK UP YOUR LEVELS
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he's doing
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fine
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a little slow but he is progressing through the game and having fun
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he wasn't there when you were making the levels he's doing it his own way
Rama
I'm on Arin's side entirely because Ross went on a tangent defending the Star Wars prequels over the Star Wars sequels and I guess that's just my brand now
Rama
(They can both be bad guys)
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he's facepalming because they're fucking up on like
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a pretty complex puzzle
Rama
(Don't fucking pretend Episode I is good just to get one over on Didney)
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I do not know the "correct" solution
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like fucking chill Ross he's not even doing that badly
HOT TURKEY TAKE
My own spicy take: The game grumps have become a big microcosm in that they embody all that is wrong about gaming

Including the fact that it’s fun and entertaining so you can’t just walk away without hesitation
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can you elaborate on this take
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because I do not understand it
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Ross absolutely nurtures and promotes the toxic git gud kiddies, there’s more than enough playing on tilt and screaming at things and negativity, but also like

There is more than enough good there that it’s not irredeemable. Just enough hope in Pandora’s Xbox, and so forth
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...I think maybe I’m too tired and should delete all of these replies
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I get it, although I would not describe that as the main thing that's wrong about gaming
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Nah I... words are hard right now and I fumbled a bit; you’re right that said things are not the primary problem but like
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Mluh.
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