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[pondering] [rp] [slightly nsfw] But do I play trans felix.
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mostly thinking outloud
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its funny because for some reason whenever I think about playing a character as trans outside of psls and such I get antsy about interpretation
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which is hilarious because I, a trans man, and worried about playing a trans man right
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not to mention people were less... welcoming of that, in DWRP in the (many) years past
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even as innocuous as I am about it, simply kind of. "Oh by the way, they are-" outside or nsfw it never really comes up
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even in nsfw its simply "well Ill get the strap."
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I suppose I do see why some people might be skittish of it depending on how its handled
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Ive seen some. nmm. interesting things. but Im not really going to yuck on anyones yums unless its harming someone.
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I dont knoe where folks find the energy to get bent out of shape about stuff so often
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but the last thing I want to do is bother someone
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I feel this as another trans person. I actually played one of the characters I wanted to as trans in a game, but it was a memloss/au game so it kinda had more leeway than others.... but it was cool.
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i haven't done that since then tho there are def some characters I've wanted to play around with as trans
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Yeah its kinda like. This balance of I want to not simply do things as my own wish fulfillment but theres that part of me that is also like
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"WELL WHY NOT THOUGH"
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Yeah! Like, let me do what I want for fun!!!
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Specifically talking about Erku here, but if you want to have the best of both worlds and have your own wish fulfillment while not risking stepping on anyone's toes, we've had sex-swapping events before and I think the items are still available in game so like
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that's always an option
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but also I'm a cis girl and idk if this is the kind of thing you're looking for? If it makes sense?
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just thought I'd throw it out there if it helps
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Always a possibility! Thanks for the info tbh. And no worries Im very hard to put off
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i would say dwrp at large wouldn't be super receptive to a trans headcanon for a character who has given no canon indication of it, BUT, if you're up front about how that's something you're including in your version, people can just opt out of tagging you if that's their pref and it should be fine
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i would also suggest you ask on a faq if a headcanon on that level would be okay to incorporate, because i think some mods would consider it too big a deviation from canon with no "evidence" of it. but some wouldn't!
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what i would NOT suggest is going for it and not even mentioning it in your app, clarity would be key in this case
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Ahh yeah youre probably right, I guess Ive been spoiled a little in that regard. Thats kinda why I was pondering it to begin with
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dwrp is just really, really obsessed with being as IC as possible and not adding facets that aren't already clearly there
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of course that's just for games, in psls truly anything goes
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Ahh yes, my memory serves me well then LMAO
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the last thing I want is to shake things up.
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it would also probably depend on the game. like a gen plot heavy game would probably be more receptive to it. i hate to say it but mods of a sex game might suspect a player with a trans headcanon of trying to fetishize it
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I probably just shouldnt attempt it in that case.
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there wouldn't be any harm in asking on the faq of a game you're considering -- just brace yourself to get a "no"
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Depressing but expected LOL
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yeah u_u
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it's also kind of weird that this IS the kind of thing you'd have to ask about, like ...
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in a perfect world, it's your character, interpret them how you want. it's not like mods would get mad if you decided your character was left handed
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I was hoping that perhaps the community would have moved past that kind of thing in particular?
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but. thus is the state of dwrp atm.
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I mean I understand being WILDLY out of character but roleplay is really just an exercise in extrapolation.
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yeah its kind of a shame, but again Im never really interested in causing waves.
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yeah like, characters are ooc the second you take them out of canon
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i firmly believe we put way too much stock in being ic, sometimes to the detriment of fun
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i've heard people say things like, "oh i want to play in this plot but my character wouldn't do [thing], so i can't"
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like what! fuck that, life is too short
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IMO there is a way to make things happen, you just have to work the circumstances and figure under what conditions would x do y.
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Which is part of the fun, like a puzzle.
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I was actually talking to Alba once about this topic and my theory on it is that for DWRP in general, it tends to come down to a question of how far out you have to extrapolate to justify whatever it is you're trying to justify in a particular interpretation
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Like, for example, "due to X, Y, and Z traits in character's canon backstory, I interpret them as ABC" is usually pretty solid because you're pointing directly to canon qualities for your support
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it starts going awry when you go out a level and go "and therefore, because they are ABC, that justifies 123, 456, 789, and 10"
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because now you're justifying a second level of interpretation on an interpretation
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Oh yeah def
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and the further out you get from canon the more tenuously you're able to support it, so the more skeptical people get
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I guess its just odd to me to still see that kind of thing applied to being trans you know?
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It feels... kinda weird.
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yeah
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no one blinks if you decide to play someone gay for the ships for the most part
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yeahhhhh then you get into that weird bad area of people assuming the "default" is cis/het and thats like
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pump the breaks! beep beep beep!
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Thats a whole ass puddle of Bad then people get angry and its a whole ass mess
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like
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I do remember the days where you would get flack for playing someone as gay
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my experience with headcanoning/play a character as nb transfemme-ish was good? No one seemed to care but I feel like some people are always gonna be shirty about that stuff
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in the same vein actually.
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me too!!
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I remember me and alba got HEEEEELLLLA flack for it
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I think the common denominator that gets shied away from is the idea of projecting, or like someone else was saying above, fetishizing
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yeah Im sad that I have to be careful but its not any New Thing to have to be either.
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and i'm not trying to say that either one inherently comes with playing a trans character or exploring a trans headcanon, not by any means
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Yeah its a fine line to walk.
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Id be more wary of someone doing that if say, they were neither of those things?
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then again, if you are, theres the projecting aspect of it.
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Its kind of a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-dont area sadly.
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It's definitely something I'd like to do more. If only because... it's nice to play characters like yourself
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i just worry about getting accused of projecting/blurring ooc and ic
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yeah. this
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then you get the "well why dont you just play already trans characters" which is like.
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that narrows it down quite a bit LOL
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and half the time its like the Whole Characters Point To Be Trans which is guess what some people want but mostly
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there's not a lot of those and they tend to come from very indie/queer-authored projects if they're not just there to Be Trans
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I enjoy just playing characters who are who they are and also happen to be This Thing
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(shit like We Know the Devil and other niche stuff)
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that!! also that!!
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Yeah I feel like folks are afraid of it being like
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hoved in their faces but no unless our characters are going to dang, I promise you wont hear about it
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and even so, probably very minimally
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I dont even particularly like focusing on it, oddly its just something to soothe the soul LOL
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i feel it
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But cest la vie, I think Ill take the safe road.
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like none of my ocs are straight and very few are cis these days lmao
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God same.
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Bisexual until proven otherwise LOL
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lesbians, lesbians as far as the eye can see
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chase your joy, friend.
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and you u_u
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well this got away from me quite a bit, didnt it LOL. interesting discussion aside! its helpful to get a like
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temperature feel for a community I have been outside of for the better part of what
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7 years?
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6? Maybe?