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Starting from Ep 14
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So they are in the underground cave with the genbu monster (for lack of things to call it)
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Damn WWX looks super fem in his red undergarments.
kikibug13
tortoise of slaughter but genbu monster works yup
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And hey. it IS a genbu! Ha. Knew it
kikibug13
and he do
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They actually call it that
kikibug13
well xianwu to go with the cn name but yes
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That's the pinyin name for Genbu.
kikibug13
hehe
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Like xianglong would be for the dragon. But figured snakey turtle in China would be a Genbu.
kikibug13
(technically genbu would be the kanji for xianwu, wouldn't it?)
SᏋPH
That's a funny question... since "Genbu" isn't a Chinese term at all. Lol.
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I think it's the English name actually.
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Like "Phoenix" is.
kikibug13
not Japanese?
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I thought it was.
kikibug13
I thought genbu, suzaku, etc, were the jp names
SᏋPH
Yes it is. Lol. My bad.
kikibug13
so since it's cn media I opt for the cn name
kikibug13
rather than the jp
SᏋPH
Yeah, but it's shorter to write.
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Anyway, it's the same monster, since it's the Japanese writing about Chinese monsters that came up with that name.
kikibug13
I got too used to 'xianwu of slaughter' which was in the novel tl
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but yesh
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Like Fushigi Yuugi, which was about ancient China.
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I think I use th Japanese name cause i never know how to properly pinyin the Chinese terms. I'm horrible at pinyin. >.<
kikibug13
lmao air
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afair
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... fair*
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/patpat
kikibug13
I remember because in this story there is a character mo xuanyu and then the tortoise is xuanwu...
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I'm sure it's completely different when written and pronounced.
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I am confused how he got into the turtle.
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With all the half digested? people?
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Huh. Okay, digested spirits.
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Dude, your leg is broken, how are you doing air flips and landing ON it? love these series. Lol
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But the CG is much better for this thing. Why didn't they do the wolf like this?
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I have a feeling this is the life changing moment, finding that sword.
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Powerful possessed artifact that corrupts.
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Ugh, when does this bastard die? Die already. This whole show he's just so... hateable.
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Oh hey. They got rescued.
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I do like how this story is all of the next gen heroes. I mean, most series are, but there's like... only next gen people around. There's barely any seniors around.
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Most have them go around meeting older gen people. This series doesn't really have much of that at all so far.
kikibug13
he crawled in through the opening in the carapace
and the bastard will die ... pretty horribly satisfactorily
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and heh yes, it's very focused on this generation
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One thing I don't get. WWX calls him Uncle Jiang instead of Sifu, but he's clearly the senior sempai of the clan.
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... of course after the 16 years they ARE the older generation
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oh yeah jiang fengmian half adopted him
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... but also wwx is somewhat irreverent with how he calls people
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Yeah, but still, it's a weird way... most would still call the masters sifu if they taught things. Otherwise the kiddies wouldn't be calling him senior sempai.
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..... point.
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He has no propriety.
kikibug13
case in point, 'LAN ZHAN'
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Damn, poor JC. He gets no credit from dad.
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Is he adopted? >.> And WWX the real kid? <.<
kikibug13
sob no, wwx is adopted but it's Complicated (as in jfm had a big fat CRUSH on wwx's mom. And wwx's dad was his best friend...)
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Siiiiiiiiigh
kikibug13
yeah
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But man mommy is such a biatch. Understandable though. But still.
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she's also really badass
kikibug13
the donghua (anime) version of her badassery is the best but here she does well, too
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Well, haven't seen her in action yet besides.... yelling. Like every scene she's in.
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/nodnods soon
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What's the relationship between daddy and mommy? They are so.... at odds.
kikibug13
Okay so this is my take BUT I think each of them does love the other, but their temperaments are extremely different, and then there was the crush on cangse sanren which made madam Yu jealous, and over the years it just exacerbated to the point where it ended up just pain
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Yeah, I can tell that there's feelings. And that there's a whole lot of jealousy involved in husband loves another person.
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But are they just.... bickering pair? Husband responsible for teaching the kiddies and she takes care of everything else?
kikibug13
mmmnot enough info tbh, you'll see why shortly
kikibug13
it feels like they both do train the disciples but
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we do know yanli has them both wrapped around her pinkie
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Things are about to get serious.
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I think we're about to see her badassery as you said.
kikibug13
mmhm
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Ugh. She wanted to kill him forever.
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Lol, you idiots. Her closing the door is not to chop off his hand.
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Oh hey, she saved WWX too.
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Lovely. They all get their new weapons one by one.
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/sigh
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I guessed it was going to be something like this. Sad.
kikibug13
yeah like I said... we don't get a chance to find out what they are like routinely because we really see so little of them
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Yeah, I kinda figured.
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She's an awesome character. I would play her if I played females.
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I love these awesome side characters.
kikibug13
most of the cn-ethnic people I know who watched this went 'ah. an Asian mom'
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LOL. Yes. It is.
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Well, a bit more extreme, but yes. XD
kikibug13
yup
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so yeah this story has amazing side characters which is good, even when the focus is on the two leads
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Oh hey, the purple lightning wen tto daddy. Or not.
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Oh heeey, we get to see more senior gen people! There's a grandma!
kikibug13
popo is good
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Ugh, someone kill that bitch already.
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Awwwww. kid. You almost got the shot off.
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I wonder. She's the third lady. Who are the first two.
kikibug13
she comes from a different clan/family
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and that's where she was third lady
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we don't see them though
SᏋPH
Wow, he's useless. Comes home and gets stabbed. While she stood solo all this time.
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I KNOW
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This series is very gender outnumbered.
kikibug13
something they couldn't do here but they did in the donghua was - before they sent the kids away - madam Yu dragging jiaojiao around by the hair
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it really is
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and the number of ladies who survive past the flashback is woefully low
SᏋPH
There's like 5 guys to 1 female.
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Maybe 10 to 1.
kikibug13
when it comes to named ladies, 10 to 1 might be closer. We have Yanli, Mianmian, madam Yu, madam Jin, Wen Qing, and one more who is coming up in the late 30s. grandma almost counts. Lan Yi and Baoshan Sanren. and one very brief glimpse at Cangse Sanren. And that's it.
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... they count? I mean, do they actually show up?
kikibug13
oh wait, and Qin Su (also coming up after flashback)
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lan yi and baoshan sanren showed up back when wwx and lwj fell into the cold spring
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Hey, what happened the darksword? Is it still back at the cove?
kikibug13
lan yi was the lady with the bunnies, and baoshan sanren showed up in her flashback
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mmm no
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let's say that the person who put it there in the first place moved it somewhere else
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But WWX carried it out with him
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then it kinda disappeared then
kikibug13
it'll show up again
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.... and seriously that was useless. He literally came back to walk in and die. >.> Should have stayed out instead.
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lmao sob
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AND caused her to kill herself.
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Worse than useless.
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That was pathetic. /sigh
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Seriously, all these guys should have teamed up as soon as they knew the Wen were trouble.
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I'm not used to the hero of these sort of shows being so... femmy. Lol.
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I always wanted one of these outfits.
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Except I can't imagine HOW they managed to make these clothes in their times. So many patterns.
kikibug13
femmy... is not what I was thinking of with him but also ig. it's what you get when your pov is the shou...
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I mean.... in all the other series.... the hero, even the kind hearted ones, or the heart of gold ones... they have a very.... 'manly' feel. Even when they play with animals, it's boyish. But him.... he's... femmy is my only description
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I really like Wen Ning.
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He's a tragedy waiting to happen.
kikibug13
you met him in the second episode too, he's one of the reasons why finishing the story and then going back is like. heeeeck
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and hee /chinhands
SᏋPH
Yeah, I recall. The dead puppet brought back that was supposed to be an illusion.
kikibug13
I mean nobody is technically dead ... that's not allowed
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(in the novel, yeah, definitely dead.)
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There's a lot of things that they set up in those first few eps for the flashback
kikibug13
a lot of a lot.
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Stopped for the night. Will watch more tomorrow.
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Possibly during the day for once.
kikibug13
hee
reineke
glad you enjoy it! yeah, I'd not describe WWX at femmy either, but what I personally enjoy is that he gets to be a lot more animated and show more emotions than other protagonists I can think of, he doesn't have to be stoic at all, makes him more fun to watch for me
kikibug13
he's crazy fun with ow on the side
SᏋPH
Not Femmy compared to anime, but for these sort of shows.
reineke
guess it depends on the definition, I just enjoy when any characters, whatever gender, get to be more like that x)
SᏋPH
It's not a bad thing! Just.... totally not what I'm used to. Lol.
reineke
I feel it is one of the big reasons for the drama's appeal? probably part of what stood out to me, found him more of a character than I do with some others
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