timeywimey
heads up This is only an unstained rumor that Jodi is leaving
timeywimey
timeywimey
Mertless, deetless, false rumor, whatever you prefer
timeywimey
this basically floating around that the BBC hasn't had involvement in
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Saying that she's leaving
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coco_rose
If only Chibnall would get the door
timeywimey
Agreed
timeywimey
but who would replace him?
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Pffff.... Though considering the backlash from the more... change-resistant elements of the fandom, I wouldn't blame her for throwing in the towel.
timeywimey
Eh, all the Doctor have gotten this level of hate
timeywimey
Even Tom Baker so it's part of the job
timeywimey
its just harder because the internet and anon trolls now
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It seems like it's been especially vicious with Jodie, but that ciuld just be me.
timeywimey
9, onwards had to deal with that
coco_rose
I'd say she is more Colin Baker levels of being disliked
coco_rose
timeywimey
fair but point is there's always a high level of hate
timeywimey
with or without internet
timeywimey
but you're right, Colin Baker got this level without internet
timeywimey
Colin Baker was the Doctor in 1984 if anyone is curious
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help.
so 1984 they were just as victious
ALEX NO
Nicholas Briggs. I said it when moffat left.
coco_rose
Yea and it was similar in that they were trying a new direction for the Doctor, making him more aggressive, and it was not well liked.
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But phoebe waller bridge would be great too honestly
ALEX NO
And she has tv show runner experience.
timeywimey
ALEX NO
I like the idea of Phoebe to be honest :>
timeywimey
Anyways, the hate comes with the territory of being cast as The Doctor
timeywimey
so you got to know the territory
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oh no no no no
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now I have Robert Preson in my head
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"Rock Island" The Music Man (opening scene)
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help.
also Jack Pre- Meeting The Doctor ^
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great con-artist song
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THE MUSIC MAN ('62): "Ya Got Trouble"
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Im gonna have the entire soundtrack in my head for the rest of the day now
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XD
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but yeah enjoy the two Pre meeting the Doctor songs for Jack
Pumpqueen Fall
Briiiiiggs but Idk what that would mean for BF
timeywimey
coco_rose
and yes, you're right it was also the new direction of the show then, which is also the issue with Jodi, its not just Jodi
timeywimey
but what Chibnall is doing
timeywimey
and also - why Doctor Who would never be green-lite today as a TV show
timeywimey
Your main character changes where's the audience loyality?
coco_rose
I mean, to be fair that hasn't always been a problem.
timeywimey
The direction of the show, no
timeywimey
Thats such a varying factor
coco_rose
There is always going to be a little ugh, the new Doctor is one I don't like, but usually you can win people over with good storytelling.
timeywimey
There was less of it with 9 and 10 but also because the show was rebooted
timeywimey
yes, and there's also and there are people who believe Doctor Who stopped with either 3 or 4
timeywimey
the age range on this show is super board
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which is why - and it was explained somewhere if Who was a new TV concept in modern TV it would never be Green lite
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part of what happened was - well they didn't know that The Doctor was going to change his face
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that was built in because Hartwell was really dying
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and the show became an overnight hit
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but if Who never existed and was pitched in 2019 - with the idea the main character changes faces and becomes another actor
timeywimey
no - that would have never been a show
timeywimey
1960s TV was much less about merchandising/marketing than today
timeywimey
most Americans didn't have a TV in their home till 1955
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they were just making stories in the 1960s to put on the new invention
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In fact Who was just suppose to be some half-hour block to fill in this gap between sports
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it wasnt supposed to be important
Pumpqueen Fall
ehhhh
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I mean it was supposed to be educational
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I wish they'd get a whole new team
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and Avengers (british version not Marvel)-esque
timeywimey
you know what I mean by important
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and erase the last season
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they weren't looking for a hit, just something to fill time inbetween
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I liked Bradley Walsh though
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Im hoping going forward they write like how they did with the New Years special
timeywimey
Not politically but just it was a story and not awkward
coco_rose
They need to retcon that timeline children thing though, not double down on it
timeywimey
agreed
coco_rose
That turned off more people than Jodi
timeywimey
I feel like its Hybird plotline all over again
timeywimey
Shiney!
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and thats all; just shiney and lacking substance otherwise
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Chibnall apparently pitched it to BBC from the getgo and it was why they gave him the job
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so
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timeywimey
>.>
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Pumpqueen Fall
also I have to say this to you; "NO BUG-EYED MONSTERS!!"
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XD
coco_rose
Oh the BBC is all for it, but the fans aren't. Which is part of the reason why people in the UK are canceling their licensing fees
Pumpqueen Fall
lol
timeywimey
and of course, on top of all of this, there's the long-running show problem. How do you keep it fresh and interesting and not make your fanbase upset?
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I mean - gestures at The Simspsons
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which is why I am glad that some shows do have a definite end
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Like Steven Universe or Gravity Falls
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because than the long-running show problems start cropping up
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and Who can't end now, with The Doctor able to infinitely regenerate
timeywimey
Im sure they thought back in the day; setting the number at 12 (12 actors) to be The Doctor was a decent number and something to strive for
timeywimey
and also with the Valeyard in The Trial of a Time Lord with 6
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with foreshadowing the Doctor's near end of the regeneration at some point and what someone would be like
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But anyways my point is- Id rather leave a show wanting more than getting more in most cases
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I have been learning that the hard way /glances at Indiana Jones, Star Wars, etc.
timeywimey
Star Wars is a mixed bag
timeywimey
The new movies are awful
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But the mandalorian - why wasn't that in theatres?
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Yes