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he's getting raked over hot coals over it, which is probably not the reaction he was hoping for
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he wanted to give his daughter a teachable moment but really didn't help her achieve it? like, a lot of kids learn best by watching someone else do something first
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There's also the part where he let her go at it for six hours and casually drops that that was apparently the only food they had in the house
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and at one point she was frustrated to the point of tears
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she's hungry, and 6 hours is a long time for a kid to be hungry
defiant jazz.
i've been fuming over it all morning ngl

like the first stage (20min? whatever) of her guessing what the pieces do, and successfully telling him her conclusions but not being able to physically make it work, could have been the teachable moment, and then you show her how to open the can of beans
defiant jazz.
people learn by demonstration and modeling how to use tools!! especially kids! animals do it too! what is wrong with that as a teaching approach!
Dr. Yubsie
She had all but one step figured out! Tell her the step she's missing and she'll do it!
defiant jazz.
there are a lot of good replies, but i particularly liked this dude's replies https://images.plurk.com/hYuOWj5PH2aiIQVj3XY0n.jpg
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literally, all this guy had to do was take 2 mins away from his stupid puzzle to show her.
defiant jazz.
i'd also be less pissed if OP (who i was following on twitter bc he made the MBMBAM theme song!!) weren't such an insufferable condescending git about it in EVERY reply

he's just been doubling down and moving the goal posts

first it was "only 2 people disagree with me, and they suck, so you know they're objectively wrong, everybody else gets it"
defiant jazz.
now that thousands of people disagree: "oh, but none of them are my followers, so lol it's just a dumb separate corner of twitter, i don't care about them"

then when his ACTUAL FOLLOWERS and literally ONE OF HIS OWN FRIENDS disagree with him, he's still like "jk i still don't care"
defiant jazz.
and he keeps saying "everybody is overreacting; lunch is at noon, dinner is at 6pm. how often do YOU eat??"

but your daughter... didn't eat lunch....? SHE WAS EXPLICITLY HUNGRY AT THE START OF THIS EXERCISE, SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN EVEN LONGER THAN 6 HOURS WITHOUT FOOD? god i hate this man

sorry done venting now
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In another reply he seems to think she'll look back on this moment fondly as "Dad taught me something!" and a bonding moment but no, she's going to remember "Dad made me feel stupid and let me go hungry all day"
defiant jazz.
๐Ÿ” YEDONG... : and he keeps saying nah he and his daughter are different, they always do learning like this, she enjoyed herself and people don't get it!!

but lol i have my doubts ๐Ÿ™„
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Yeah I wouldn't be surprised at all if this isn't the first time he's treated her in a similar way
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But she's learned to not get openly upset maybe
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and a lot of people replying like "yeah, shit like this gave me a complex/i dont talk to my dad anymore" like.........
defiant jazz.
this comparison thread ๐Ÿฅบ
Renayโท ๐Ÿ on Twitter
cricketussy
What is really sending me here is having caught sight of a reply by a child therapist here being like "this is great and the people saying it's abusive are just projecting their own experience" like...
cricketussy
okay fair about projecting, maybe, like we don't KNOW that this guy does this all the damn time but also SIX HOURS OF INCREDIBLE FRUSTRATION is not a good way to teach anything to anyone!
cricketussy
Making her try to work out on her own how it works before just immediately showing her is valid. Making her strain for hours more when she mostly had it at that point is just cruel and entirely unnecessary.
juliette lives
truly, i hope this is fiction
juliette lives
it bothers me to let my kids struggle for like... five minutes with a thing, but I do it because they need to experiment. this makes me so upset.
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I hope it is too cause like. Six hours of watching your kid struggle with something dude???
juliette lives
he does say it was off and on so maybe they wandered off and did other stuff and came back to it later but
juliette lives
she still didn't get to eat???
Dr. Yubsie
And like nowhere in that six hours does he just... gently nudge the one piece of information she's missing!
cricketussy
Yeah. Just. "This is a teaching moment!" /proceeds to not teach anything actually
cricketussy
I do teach things to children professionally and this story offends me on so many levels
Dr. Yubsie
I'm all for letting kids figure stuff out on their own but that's like... how to make the best paper airplane, not you don't eat until you do this
Dr. Yubsie
And even then they need direction!
cricketussy
Yeah, they need to have some opportunity to experiment with things and see on their own what works and doesn't, but he gave her that in the first fifteen minutes, at which point she mostly understood and he had identified the one piece she did not yet understand.
cricketussy
That's when you tell her the piece she's missing, dude
juliette lives
also idk if this guy is exaggerating about it being the only food in the house, but unless you're literally living in poverty, keep some fucking decent food in the house. you have a child, sir. we're in a pandemic.
juliette lives
this is not the time for you to live out your prepper fantasies
cricketussy
Yeah I wouldn't be nearly as mad about it if there had been something else she was able and allowed to eat. Like I think you could get away with "no you can't have the treat in the can until you figure out the puzzle of the can" but this was "I guess neither of us is going to eat, then!"
cricketussy
I still think "figure out this thing you don't understand entirely on your own" is a terrible teaching method but that on its own doesn't constitute abusive behavior, just being a truly awful teacher.
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Yeah, he's either admitting he doesn't make sure there's adequate food in the house (if that was literally all that was left) or that he was denying her a meal just to prove a point, not allowing her to make a sandwich or eat cereal or something
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Put down your puzzle and order some fucking groceries
defiant jazz.
right and denying her a meal is... not the best incentive or best way to help someone to solve a complicated problem!!!! especially if she's having increasing trouble BECAUSE of said hunger (the tweet where he describes her saying her brain was fuzzy and she couldn't think straight; fuck him)
juliette lives
it looks like he's also said some pretty gross hateful things in his past tweets, joking or not. fuck him.
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Heโ€™s definitely mad his story isnโ€™t getting the kind of clout he wanted if you look at some of those replies.
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Anyways if I were this guyโ€™s wife Iโ€™d be kicking his ass out
defiant jazz.
OH MY GOD HE DELETED HIS TWITTER HAHAHA
cricketussy
cricketussy
Watch pictures of cats being confused by cans be the next surge of internet cat things and anyone who didn't see apocalypse dad has no idea why
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