
Quinn Angstrom
sometimes I think about how it's hard to do a really good visual metaphor cyberpunk city because Midgar already did it as well as is physically possible

Quinn Angstrom
you can't make a cyberpunk city better than Midgar without making it at least partially Midgar

Quinn Angstrom
the omnipresent pressure exterted by the steel ceiling

Villain
You'd have to go more into the cyber

Villain
if that makes any sense

Quinn Angstrom
part of the brilliance of the setup is like

Princess Emily
yeah but damn the PLATE

Princess Emily
is SO STRONG

Quinn Angstrom
the people below can ALWAYS see the plate,

Quinn Angstrom
but the people above NEVER see the people below

Quinn Angstrom
the pizza doesn't just oppress the lower class, it hides them from the upper class

Princess Emily
there's also (and it's touched on more in the remake) how like

Princess Emily
the pizza is controlled by Shinra

Princess Emily
the lights that the people down below need to not live in darkness

Quinn Angstrom
YEP

Princess Emily
the pollution coming in from above

Quinn Angstrom
the underside lives and dies at the whims of the corporation

Princess Emily
also something that can be said is like

Princess Emily
we talk about how the lower class are gonna look up and go "god DAMN you upper class folk, living up there,"

Princess Emily
and the upper class are like "out of sight out of mind with these lower peeps"

Princess Emily
but in the end

Princess Emily
Shinra's the one who can go "let's drop a plate"

Quinn Angstrom
YES

Quinn Angstrom
the destruction of Sector 7 is the PERFECT demonstration of Shinra's beliefs

Princess Emily
and then both upper and lower class ALL die

Quinn Angstrom
there's the poor, the rich, and the ultra-rich

Quinn Angstrom
and the ultra-rich don't care about ANY of them

Quinn Angstrom
they can, and will, do literally anything

Quinn Angstrom
and nobody can stop them

Villain
Midgar doens't have a government

Villain
it just has Shinra

Princess Emily
I could honestly play an entire game about Midgar, it's such a great setting

Princess Emily
....I mean, I guess that's what FF7R is,

Quinn Angstrom
the mayor lives in Shinra Tower

Quinn Angstrom
his job is a joke

Princess Emily
but like. I could play an entire game where it's the entire game and entire story.

Quinn Angstrom
the mayor of Midgar is President Shinra

❆𝒮𝒽𝑜𝓌 𝒴𝑜𝓊𝓇𝓈𝑒𝓁𝒻
shinra blatantly owns the law enforcement too, who are not actually held to uphold any laws but rather just carry out whatever duty shinra gives them

Quinn Angstrom
yeah the 'cops' are just shinra military security

Quinn Angstrom
they do not follow any order other than the Shinra Corporation's bottom line

skerple
there's this one moment from the original game that FF7R didn't recreate, to its detriment

skerple
of President Shinra standing in his office, watching the plate fall, while he listens to lovely classical music

skerple
it is the EPITOME of what Shinra is