lily!
Overall, my thoughts on Babylonia and Camelot are respectively, "This is brilliant... but I like this."
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The thing is they are both EXTREMELY GOOD STORIES but are on such different axes that it's impossible to judge them by the same merits.
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And I just naturally prefer the sort of stories Camelot told.
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Camelot is like... a very personal, very raw drama about humanity, duty, and companionship.
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Babylonia is a fucking EPIC in every sense of the word.
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I naturally gravitate towards Camelot because it's much more personal, but Babylonia is still crazy good.
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i was thinking it over today and i feel like
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babylonia is the apex of nasu being nasu in the short term
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by which i mean i don't doubt the entire story is gonna be 'nasu being nasu' but babylon is a concentrated shot of 'humanity fucking owns' punching you in the fucking orbital bone
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yeah exactly
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But because it was more focused on the concept of "humanity fucking owns," which fucking owns, it didn't feel as like... personal as Camelot?
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Camelot definitely felt more focused on your choices as an individual, yeah
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esp. in regards to all the knights choosing to rebel or remain loyal, and Bedi in particular
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yeah like
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there are a few moments that came close but nothing will beat
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WE ARE NOT SOME BUTTERFLIES ON A BOARD!
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for me
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it's a real good moment
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and I've mentioned this, but that part at the end where you find out all these people have gathered to fight because of you specifically is just
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YEAH IT'S SO GOOD
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that shit's my jam
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Camelot remains my fave.
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another line that can't be beat
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and is also my current discord status, usurping "EVERYBODY DO THE ATSUMORI
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is
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At the entrance of the desert, someone reminded me I was human.
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I think Camelot really hit because it was a story like... specifically about Mash and Guda and a huge turning point for BOTH of them.
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Game: "At the edge of the desert someone reminded me of my humanity"
Me: https://imgs.plurk.com/Qyf/O9h/w9FDS1Yz0cox8jfqUzHgNtVYpAK_lg.gif
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Like if Camelot hadn't shook out the way it had, I don't think Guda would've chosen to plancha bomb Quetz instead of destroying the Sun Stone.
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I think like... Babylonia's biggest failing is that it really underutilized Ushi, Leo, and Benkei. Like if they were more consistent travel companions before Gorgon, or if, like, only one of them bit it at the Gorgon fight and the rest of them had to deal with it, it would've been a lot better I think?
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i also kinda wanted to see leo underworld shenanigans
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Mash getting her literal and metaphorical turning point and becoming Guda's actual knight in shining armor is real good too
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yeah...
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god i got distracted
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but yeah the ALL THE WARRIORS is, like i said, shit i'm REAL weak to and both camelot and babylonia used that to excellent effect
Usagi
meanwhile im like 'i liked babylon best because it didn't punch me in the throat quiet as hard'

LOOK CAMELOT DESTROYED ME I WAS SHOOK AT POINTS
Usagi
*quite
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you're valid
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i think ultimately i preferred babylonia more but camelot is extremely strong
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yeah babylon is a stirring epic adventure story even in its darkest parts and is incredibly uplifting even when everything is terrible and everyone is dead and it's all about triumph
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while camelot is a tragedy about a very small group of people who don't know how to deal with grief and who are taking it out on an undeserving world
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/sage nod
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again, both of which are EXTREMELY nasu
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YEAH
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i'd make an argument that 'smash them together and you have heaven's feel'
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ugh don't remind me i need to read ubw,
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i need to reread ubw myself
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i prefer camelot because i like getting absolutely fucking destroyed in the feelings but i can see why most people would prefer babylon
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also like
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ana is so good and i love her so much
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i know hw backwards and forwards but i can do with a revisit of ubw
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she was easily the highlight of the singularity for me
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ana is a sweet baby
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also i have no clips of it because aniplex but i want you to be aware of something i forgot
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kingu vs tiamat comes with an insert song and it hurts my feelings every time
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KINGU WAS ALSO VERY GOOD
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hang on let me see what i can scrape up
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i think camelot appeals to me as a writer because even considering mobage writing it is so tightly paced
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it's plotted so well while babylon meanders and babylon meandering is a good thing in its context but there's something inherently pleasing about how well put together the structure of camelot is
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oh i agree
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I'M ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF WATCHING THE ANIME SO I'LL GET THERE WHEN I GET THERE
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fair
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now that you bring it up i'm a little torn on which pacing i like better
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i think the fundamental difference between babylon and camelot is best expressed in how they've been adapted tbh
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babylon got a 22 episode action anime
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while camelot is getting a movie duology\
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camelot's meandering was purposeful in a larger picture, like we were fucking around Accomplishing Shit while babylonia was meandering around doing small tasks for people
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babylonia doing small tasks really served its purpose tbh
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and now that i stop to think about it i don't know if i prefer one over the other or if i am aware both are actually equally valid and important
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but the breakneck pacing of camelot really served to emphasize how precarious everything was from the start
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oh now i'm crying about babylonia again
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but yeah camelot was like fucked from minute one
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babylonia was 20,000k slow burn apocalypse
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yeah.
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like camelot was about finding companionship and connection in the middle of basically a fucking warzone
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while babylon was about becoming connected to a community only to watch that community get annihilated and carrying on the torch to finish the job
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both very effective stories
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but i personally enjoy the first more
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oh def
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at that point it's big Wow Two Cakes energy
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yeah exactly
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something i really liked about camelot that won't translate to adaptations, though
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did you ever notice what happened if story support bedi got KOd
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...i barely used story support bedi,
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But I'm guessing he retreated
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oh good i get to tell you myself
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Without particle effects?
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he retreated c:
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because he's not a fucking servant, nerds
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YEP
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i love the reveal of YOU DID FUCKING WHAT
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god yeah i'd have to rank camelot slightly higher myself because it had so many good fucking moments like LEARNING BEDIVERE WAS STILL ALIVE
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BEDIVERE IS THE FUCKING MAN AND THAT HITS LIKE A TRUCK
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yeah that fucking killed me
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ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED YEARS HE WANDERED THE EARTH HAVING TO LIVE WITH HIS MISTAKE
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FUCK!!
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it's such a good reveal because
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who the fuck would see that coming
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EXACTLY
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that's not even a thing i would have imagined would possibly the fuck happened
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lily!
yeah camelot makes me like... hollow-eyed thousand yard stare but in a good way while babylon makes me want to pump my fists and scream triumphantly
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yeah exactly
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the nasu energy is extreme and powerful and attacks me FULLY where i live
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u-u lays here in bedivere
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