LiberBEARian
[uspol] [work] I will say this about 2020 vs 2016; whatever happens, at least I don't have Joanne doing victory laps in front of me and squealing in happiness.
LiberBEARian
That was a fun day of work, lemme tell you.
Themme Fatale
uggggggggh
spooky queer
lmao
revenge guac
Relatable. I had a coworker who showed up the next day in 2016 in a MAGA hat and feigned not understanding why everyone in the office was depressed.
spooky queer
no you’ll just have sergio’s mom
LiberBEARian
Also? Weirdly Joanne is still miraculously alive after telling me all her doom and gloom shit for yearssss
LiberBEARian
She's still friends on facebook and yesterday was her birthday
LiberBEARian
spooky queer : Haha yeah. But on the upside I'll have Sergio
spooky queer
true!
LiberBEARian
WHO, it must be said, was so mad he was shaking this morning and I calmed him down and talked about our wedding.
LiberBEARian
LiberBEARian
Oh man, Sergio when he gets mad is hilarious
LiberBEARian
I'm lying in bed and he pokes his head in and takes a huff and goes "I know it's really bad and mean to say, but....Is it wrong for me to want them to all get COVID?" and I laughed and went "I mean, a BIT, I don't think you really want people to die no matter how stupid they are."
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Oh, classic Joanne. Why I am not surprised she did that...
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I'm glad she's (mostly) out of your life now
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and asdadkldsa Sergio, I feel him
LiberBEARian
He goes "You've been more liberal and longer than me, how do you stand it???"and I'm like "Well... Jews have always been a political or religious or ethnic minority. You kinda take humor where it comes"
LiberBEARian
And he was moody and I hugged his hand and went "Hey, maybe we should be Republican. WE'RE gonna be okay, we're white and middle class. Maybe we've been looking at this all wrong. I'mma switch parties." and he groaned and went "noooooooo"
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That's...yeah that sounds legit
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rolfmao aww
LiberBEARian
And I think where we left it is that I talked to him a bit about the reason he was so upset and anxious right now is because he cares about so many people, and that's not a bad thing; it's the reason I fell in love with him
LiberBEARian
And that being upset was a good thing and you can't let it make you cynical and bitter.
Ptriciadactyl
I'm so happy Sergio has become liberal and doesn't share his parents' political views.
LiberBEARian
He was so funny. He came into it going like "I KNOW WHAT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WAS DESIGNED FOR. MY PARENTS ARE ALWAYS SAYING IT'S FOR THE FARMERS BUT REALLY IT'S FOR THE SLAVE-OWNERS. I JUST SPENT 2 HOURS READING HISTORY."
LiberBEARian
And I'm laughing because he's so cute when he's fired up
LiberBEARian
I told him that even though our plan was to have 1 or 2 kids, that we really need to be having like 6 or 7 to become quiverful parents and balance things out with our liberal brood of radical children.
Ptriciadactyl
ha
spooky queer
ahaha omg bless
spooky queer
also you need to move to the midwest and turn it blue again
LiberBEARian
Honestly I was shocked Ohio was that close
spooky queer
just by having lots of tiny radical leftists
LiberBEARian
Most of my mom's family lives there now
LiberBEARian
Cost of living would go down!
LiberBEARian
https://images.plurk.com/1a7omgftAH3FDFoV7hRQNa.png on the cross side, here's Ohio. My relatives live in Dayton, Columbus, and Cleveland. So that was promising to see.
LiberBEARian
My mom was born in Columbus. Her parents voted Republican all their lives. I'm wondering how many people switched over
StarryOblivion
Sergio reminds me a lot of my ex, or rather, what I'd hoped my ex would evolve into. Unfortunately, my ex was still voting red as late as 2018 strictly because he didn't want to disappoint his parents or think critically. I'm so glad Sergio evolved
LiberBEARian
Sergio came to it slowly but of his own accord - he was already leaning Libertarian Independent when I met the guy. Four months into dating I was like "BERNIE SANDERS IS HERE IN BOSTON LET'S GO" and made him stand out in the freezing cold with me for hours to hear him speak
LiberBEARian
Without me actually. asking him what he believed.
SPOILER ALERT
oh yeah it's incredibly ironic that our whole electoral system was built around the idea that people are too stupid to be allowed to make decisions
spooky queer
my parents want to move back to iowa and they're trying to convince me but i'm like
spooky queer
nah fam
spooky queer
they won't be doing it for a few years (they don't want to move the dogs) but
spooky queer
i don't still know anyone who lives in iowa, i was ten when we moved XD
Ptriciadactyl
my relatives are off to the right of Cleveland in a red county
LiberBEARian
https://images.plurk.com/63L5gfc6uyJ7mhgxV3YB6N.png Here's where I grew up and went to school. Suffolk went for Trump because gotta make that money work in the Hamptons, kids.
spooky queer
omg
LiberBEARian
And Genesee county always goes red because fuck the college kids who don't vote in the majority farming community
Ptriciadactyl
I'm incredibly grateful my dad now votes dem; his sisters are both Trump supporters
Ptriciadactyl
like, I think my parents could both stand to be more liberal, but at least they're way more liberal than my aunts
LiberBEARian
legittt
LiberBEARian
I think there's one or two lone cousins (in FLORIDA) on my dad's side who went Trump but most of his side is all-the-way democrat. Most of my mom's side is republican, I think she's the black sheep of the family comparatively speaking
StarryOblivion
My ex claimed to be a centrist, and we started dating pre-2016 election, so that was fine. He'd said he was scared after the election, but it turned out it wasn't because of the results, but rather because he was afraid people would find out he'd voted for the Dark Lord. Like... he knew enough to be ashamed of his vote, but not enough to not vote that way
Ptriciadactyl
yikes
StarryOblivion
And he figured it didn't matter, because Jersey is normally a blue state anyway. So fuck the electoral college for letting people think their vote doesn't matter, and so they don't have to think too critically about their votes
LiberBEARian
StarryOblivion
I'm so glad Sergio came to his conclusions on his own, because it doesn't matter if someone is liberal or conservative except in this election so long as they understand why they're voting the way they are
Hyatt
that NY map. my parents' childhood home county went lightly red
i love you 3000
StarryOblivion : i hate the electoral college so much. it's made me so disenfranchised towards voting. this was the first election i've voted in since i turned 18 (34 now), and i still don't feel like it mattered since my state is so red anyway.
LiberBEARian
Hyatt : Which one is your childhood home county? NY has always been a weird/interesting patchwork to me
Hyatt
Broome
Hyatt
it's very gray and depressed and depressing
LiberBEARian
Ah, yeah. That one might shift, actually. It's a 6,000 vote margin with only 75% in
LiberBEARian
Buffalo might be interesting to watch, it went for Hilary in 2016. It's coming in with 44% of the vote so far
Hyatt
also it's not my home county, but my parents', and where their parents lived for most of my adolescence, and where my dad's sisters still live, and where we go every year for Christmas
LiberBEARian
Right, sorry1
LiberBEARian
*!
Hyatt
and I did live there for two years of grad school!
StarryOblivion
i love you 3000 , same. This is the first election my mother's ever voted in, and having to explain the EC to her was like telling a little kid that the tooth fairy is a sham. How we haven't abolished that shit and still call ourselves a democracy is beyond me.
Hyatt
because it'd probably take a constitutional amendment, which is dead in the water, and there are enough swing states who like the outsized amount of attention they get and so won't support the national popular vote pact
i love you 3000
cries :c
LiberBEARian
\o/ super bummed about ranked choice voting not coming through for Mass but oh well.
LiberBEARian
After managing to get Dave Nangle ousted in favor of Vanna White here, I think I was riding high on expectations
Ptriciadactyl
I just had to look her up because I thought "her name surely can't be Vanna White"
Ptriciadactyl
Vanna Howard
LiberBEARian
Ffff jesus.
LiberBEARian
Mom's been saying that to me so of course my fingers went that way
Ptriciadactyl
WHEEL OF FORTUNE: LIVE IN LOWELL
LiberBEARian
Sorry! Vanna Howard
LiberBEARian
YEP
LiberBEARian
She's great and she won 44% of the vote in a three-way against a 22-year incumbant
Ptriciadactyl
yessssss, kick his ass!
LiberBEARian
WHO WAS INDICTED FOR FRAUD FOR USING TAXPAYER MONEY my god.
𝕊𝕥𝕚𝕝𝕝ℝ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥ℍ𝕖𝕣𝕖
https://images.plurk.com/5Dj8O5CeZmJQLSLDRcds8P.jpg I will say I'm proud of Shawnee County for going blue. it's not our fault there's no one living in the rest of the state.
𝕊𝕥𝕚𝕝𝕝ℝ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥ℍ𝕖𝕣𝕖
and Douglas County directly to the east of it is Lawrence fucking Kansas
LiberBEARian
wowww
LiberBEARian
that is usually a solidly red districtholy crap.
𝕊𝕥𝕚𝕝𝕝ℝ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥ℍ𝕖𝕣𝕖
it's not likely to get any better because there are only really two other counties with large cities, everything else is Very Rural, but I'm proud of us anyway
𝕊𝕥𝕚𝕝𝕝ℝ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥ℍ𝕖𝕣𝕖
oh actually I bet that random blue county out to the west there is Manhattan so. one other county. /STARES AT WICHITA
LiberBEARian
haha
LiberBEARian
The Berkshires cheered me up for Massachusetts. I was worried about them because they were oppressing Peter's vote and the Biden haybale was set on fire out there
LiberBEARian
75% to 25% Biden
𝕊𝕥𝕚𝕝𝕝ℝ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥ℍ𝕖𝕣𝕖
lol yeah that's Riley county
LiberBEARian
They went more blue than Essex county, which has Salem
LiberBEARian
You think it mighta been Kansas State University people?
𝕊𝕥𝕚𝕝𝕝ℝ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥ℍ𝕖𝕣𝕖
definitely
LiberBEARian
Good for them. My gosh
𝕊𝕥𝕚𝕝𝕝ℝ𝕚𝕘𝕙𝕥ℍ𝕖𝕣𝕖
I don't think it's coincidence that the counties with our two largest cities and our two state colleges went blue
LiberBEARian
One thing that's been interesting is how much georgia became a swing state. It's still going to go for Trump but the fact that it's so narrow is probably due to Stacey Abrams. She was the only person I wasn't sick of seeing in campaign ads by the end of it
Ptriciadactyl
I knooow. The blue counties came so close to swinging the state.
Ptriciadactyl
I told Nick his vote matters more than mine this election, and man, it came closer than I expected.
anstaar
i keep rooting for north carolina, i can track my family there by blue counties
Ptriciadactyl
North Carolina has swung another percent in the right direction since last night, but they're also really close to done counting, so I don't think they have it in them to swing quite over the line
anstaar
it seems highly unlikely, but the adrenalin of poor sleep keeps me hoping, i just keep staring at the senate numbers and dying inside. as election goes
236 bees
utah went red like I knew it would and I'm tired
236 bees
it is very hard to believe your vote matters when it doesn't matter you know?
236 bees
Utah has never voted for anything other than a Republican president
236 bees
it's like 40% for Biden but a lot of utahns also hate trump but not enough to overthrow party politics
236 bees
the two party system is a curse on humanity
LiberBEARian
236 bees : Yeah. But it's leaning more blue this year. You guys swung another county compared to 2016
236 bees
yeah but that's still ultimately meaningless is the depressing thing
236 bees
unless there's another like 200k mail in ballots that have not been counted yet all for blue it does not matter at all
LiberBEARian
Oh no, Utah is solidly red, but it's shifting demographics. That's an encouraging trend.
236 bees
maybe, maybe not
236 bees
like I said a lot of staunch conservatives really hate trump
236 bees
if a non trash fire human were the candidate I don't think it would be so close
236 bees
mind, if a non garbage human were the candidate we wouldn't be in this mess so eh
Hyatt
I wasn't too worried about the Berkshires. Western Mass goes pretty strongly blue, and by some quirk the less populated towns tend to be the bluest
Hyatt
now if only more states could be like us...
LiberBEARian
And here comes Michigan with a Biden win. Fuckin' hell that was nerve-wracking.
LiberBEARian
https://images.plurk.com/3ErIJjMxoPzFx8EwiLjftd.png come onnnn arizona, you're next buddy.
swoleregard
538 seems to think he's pulled it off -- they're not officially declaring anything, but they say WI and MI are likely to stay blue and AZ and NV are likely to be called that way. At which point the other three don't matter.
Ptriciadactyl
I'm not willing to count on Nevada until it's finished, the margin is so slim there
Ptriciadactyl
but uuuugh I hope
swoleregard
here's what they said: "Nevada. This one’s a bit more straightforward. Biden leads by only 0.6 percent or about 7,500 votes. But what’s remaining should be pretty good for him. It’s all mail-in ballots that were either received late in the process or which are still coming in —
swoleregard
in Nevada, mail ballots can be received by Nov. 10 provided they’re postmarked by Election Day. The mail ballots were quite blue in Nevada by party registration, much more so than in Arizona, including votes that arrived relatively late in the process. Likely Biden."
Ptriciadactyl
that's actually very good to hear, thank you
LiberBEARian
This is so weird. It's the exact opposite feeling I had in 2016
LiberBEARian
Four years ago I went to bed optimistic and hopeful and woke up miserable and depressed. Today that's been flipped
LiberBEARian
I keep knocking on wood and not looking at polls rn
skipthedemon
Yeah, 2016, I also ignored news, went to bed being like 'there's no way Trump can win, that's just a media puff pipe dream, right?' But had nightmares about him winning and then woke up and looked at news sites and just could not believe
swoleregard
I'm still very depressed about the senate but I would certainly rather have an evil senate and a sane president than a repeat of the last 4 years
Jay
I haven't been looking at all, I'm just so horrified it can even be close. That so many people looked at this trash fire and said 'yeah, this is good, let's keep going like this'
Hyatt
"Trump is... uncivil, but at least he's keeping the socialists from destroying the country. and Republicans get things done"
Hyatt
Status of National Popular Vote Bill in Each State
74 electoral votes away from it being effective, and no swing states have joined. but unlike presidential elections, a state only has to be "won" once
Mouth Powers
I need to figure out who to write to for PA
Hyatt
governor probably
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