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TMW you really want to tell a baby RPer that no, Cartoon X was NOT the origin of a very standard gag, just the place they saw it first, but then you remember this is the internet and you are old and should just let people enjoy themselves...
mule1947
ohhh lord I know that feeling. I have to shake my fist at the sky silently because I am also that old person who doesn't want to be mean to the new kids.
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.... but you still really just anna be Old Man Shakes Fist At Cloud
mule1947
And what an appropriate name, thank you nonysystem
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pssshhhh
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They will learn in their own time, the same way I learned the hook from Men In Black is from a disco song called Forget Me Nots and therefore it's about 50,000 times funnier
python9171
I feel this, rofl
magpie9134
I could have written this in my sleep
durian1625
I know exactly what comment this is about and felt the same way. But we learned, they will learn too.
durian1625
I'm a durian? Well that stinks.
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durian1625: double LOL
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I knew at least a couple people on my timeline would go "I see what you did there anon" but ... IDK. Sometimes you just gotta complain about feeling old
mule1947
But we get to kind of shepherd them along too, and remind them of cool things that came before and add context.
magpie9134
yeah that's my thinking. it's hard to find a balance between not dumping on their parade and going "hey actually this is a cool thing that is an established trope in this genre, not something your favorite show made up"
durian1625
The trick is how to do it without hurting their feelings or making them feel spoken down to. Which we don't want to do. I personally don't know how to walk that fine line.
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mule1947: Yes, exactly! But I didn't want to come across as 'splainy
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I am awful at that line, I"m pretty sure, because most people were to me
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So I have learned to sit on my hands 90% of the time and apologize the oher 10%
durian1625
I am stuck in the wanting to help/afraid to make it worse spot.
mule1947
I think my fall back is generally. "Yeah that is really cool! I got into something with a similar of set up that you might also like if you ever want to check it out."
python9171
It’s hard to do online. Much easier face to face. I think, at least.
mule1947
Cause I'm friggin Grandma Willow at this point, I got wisdom to dispense here
python9171
(Oooh I’m a danger noodle!)
mule1947
cuddle noodle
magpie9134
People also often want to think their particular favorite thing is special and innovative and it's hard to see that "this is an established trope" isn't the same as "it's uninventive and bad and you're bad for thinking it's cool"
mule1947
We all get defensive I think.
magpie9134
I don't know what this is about specifically but I'd feel bad if I couldn't phrase it in a way that didn't make it clear that wasn't what I meant
magpie9134
so I usually stay quiet in this kind of situation
mule1947
I know I get defensive in the reverse when people say the new X is better than the old X I grew up with and still love.
mule1947
So I gotta check that reaction and embrace that it's a new thing for new people with different life experience and exposure. And neither new nor old is inherently bad. It's just different.
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Gosh yes on all counts
magpie9134
There's a reason almost every american kids cartoon has a body swap episode. It's a plot that is easy to think of interesting stories. that doesn't mean the show that does it second isn't inventive
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I mean, even in the rare occasion, I will go to bat for a remake against the original ...! But let people love the things they love 
I have no problem with that unless the thing they love actively harms someone by existing and turning a profit
I have no problem with that unless the thing they love actively harms someone by existing and turning a profit
magpie9134
once you start counting stock episode plots it gets really funny
magpie9134
you see them everywhere
mule1947
This is why tropes are tropes
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magpie9134: The Freaky Friday plot, the Was It All A Dream plot, etc
magpie9134
exactly!
mule1947
Kinda glad the newer stuff is moving away from the "and we all learned a valuable lesson" morality tales a bit though
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y e s
magpie9134
Mmhm. You still get lessons but they don't hit you over the head with them so much
magpie9134
Which allows them in some cases to be more nuanced and thoughtful
rabbit5412
I find it really hard not to well-actually about this stuff because I think it's neat!
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I am seeing a lot more story-and-character driven stuff that lets you draw your own conclusions or make your own decisions about where the lines are
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And I really, really, really like that aspect of new fandoms
mule1947
Almost like the world isn't gasp black and white!
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rabbit5412: YEAH, the interplay and evolution of tropes and themes and stuff is just ... . [emote that would give me RIGHT away]
mule1947
I do have to give it to a lot of newer things for adding nuance where many of the toons and shows I enjoyed as a kid back when dirt was young, were pretty much clear cut this=good and that=bad.
rabbit5412
now I wanna know what cartoon bb rper was talking about
butter9946
I wonder what series but that would hinder anonymity
python25
I too am curious
python9171
Another noodle! 🐍
uranus5384
how the fuck did python25 get a two-digit number i did not know that could happen
python25
I'm ~special~
python25
also yay! noodle buddies!
butter9946
Two pythons and a two digit number. This is MADNESS
python25
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Tonight we dine in Plurk
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And in fairness the cartoon THEY referenced is about 20 years old so .... I'm ancient y'all
magpie9134
it's okay anon. I always forget people didn't grow up on the stuff I did
magpie9134
time is weird
knight7427
Imma be honest, I like that we've gotten to the point where it's us complaining about baby RPers.
knight7427
RP has aged like a nice wine, it really has.
knight7427
And we shall gently teach them: what is best in life.
knight7427
rabbit5412
I'm also ancient, we can crumble into dust together
rabbit5412
also I've found that I love some remakes/new generations much more that the originals but for some things I still want to shoo the kids off my lawn
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Rabbit speaks the absolute unfiltered truth
knight7427
Wisdom from the Rabbit!
butter9946
I haven't found a lot of remakes I prefer
butter9946
Like.. John Carpenter's The Thing. Is a good remake.
rabbit5412
rabbit just likes a lot of things passionately without discrimination and will yell about them all
mule1947
The Thing is a better take on Who Goes There than Thing From Another World was.
mule1947
Hmm 20 years ago... heheheh yeah. Umm I liked 80s toons.
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mule1947 I'm not very far ahead of you
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but if I drop my faves I can kiss my anon status goodbye
mule1947
You and me both lol
shake331
I felt this way when someone on tumblr was praising the MacElroys for inventing the phrase "shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic"
shake331
That phrase has been around for decades at leasdt
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I used to RP with someone who specialized in Titanic history, that anecdote would make her roll around in agony I bet
rabbit5412
I used to be super into Titanic stuff and omg
shake331
Thankfully I can report that most of the notes on that were responses and reblogs of people being like, "ah, no"