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@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:11 AM

Thinking about the movie Alien and how much scarier that must have been in the 70s when it first came out

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:11 AM

Since like

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:11 AM

By now the Xenomorph is a fucking pop culture icon

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:11 AM

It appeared in Animaniacs for fuck's sake

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:12 AM

(It menaced Dot, who pulled out a bigger, tougher looking alien from a tiny box)

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:12 AM

(Then the two aliens went on a date and left the scene)

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:12 AM

So like we all know what it looks like

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:12 AM

What it can do

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:12 AM

What a facehugger is

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

but in 1979 no one knew what the FUCK that thing was because it came from the mind of HR Geiger and had never been seen anywhere else

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

Honestly the movie's still pretty fucking scary today even with all that considered

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

It was an original creation

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

YEAH

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

but yeah

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

IT'S A GOOD MOVIE

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

exposure has dulled it somewhat

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

But also consider this:

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

This was around when VCRs were FIRST coming out

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

and VCRs put a huge boom in the horror film market

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:13 AM

for 2 reasons:

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:14 AM

1: You can watch a VCR at home, by yourself, with the lights out

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:14 AM

2: VHS tapes are much lower quality than a film in a theater

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:14 AM

So it was like

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:15 AM

In scenes that were perfectly clear in the theater

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:15 AM

If you watched them at home they were shittier looking and as a result it was way easier to be like "Oh god"

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:15 AM

"Is that a shadow or is that the alien!?!??!?!?!"

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

Aliens was ALSO a really good movie

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

But it was a very different movie

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

There’s two parts in the movie where Ridley Scott has the balls to just put the creature on screen for a WHILE and you don’t notice it because it’s so still

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

Alien was survival horror suspense

oh i'm scary

@yurisoldier

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

Aliens was the RE4

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

And even in 1080p it lands

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

Aliens was action horror

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

so yeah what Raven said

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:16 AM

But I can only imagine on a shitty VHS transfer

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:17 AM

My two favorite scenes in Aliens:

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:17 AM

- When they're sitting in their bunker, watching the ammo counters on the sentry guns steadily drop

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:17 AM

not sure if the aliens are going to overwhelm them or not

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:17 AM

You can't see what's going on

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:18 AM

You just see the number going down while everyone stares at the screen in horror

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:18 AM

- At the climax, when Ripley is surrounded on all sides, but she's also right by the eggs and she has a flamethrower

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:18 AM

So she threatens the eggs and the aliens back off

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:18 AM

And for like the first time in the franchise

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:18 AM

There's a moment of actual communication between the aliens and the humans

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:19 AM

It's incredibly simple

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:19 AM

It's a fucking threat

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:19 AM

"Leave my young alone or I'll cook your young"

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:19 AM

(Because she had the kid with her)

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:19 AM

But like because it was so SIMPLE, even something as wildly different from humans as the xenomorphs could actually understand it

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

Anyways good movies

00000000

@fireplacecat

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

IIRC the sentry gun scene wasn't in the theatrical cut

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

it wasn't!?!??!

00000000

@fireplacecat

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

Nope

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

lame!

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

It's so good!

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

It wasn’t!?

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:20 AM

Holy shit that’s so fucking vital

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:21 AM

Anyways you know what has gone through the phenomenon of villain decay TEN times worse than Alien?

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:21 AM

Dracula

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:21 AM

Haha oh my god yeah

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:21 AM

Decay through overexposure, I should say

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:21 AM

The book Dracula hinges on the fact that the reader does not realize that the character Dracula is a vampire

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:21 AM

So reading it now

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:22 AM

It just comes off as quaint

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:22 AM

Dracula: "I do not drink....wine."
1897 reader: "What a curious thing to say. I wonder why he doesn't drink wine?"
2020 reader: "OHOHOHO I BET HE FUCKING DOESN'T"

duck bastard

@trilies

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:23 AM

I remember osp did a thing on Dracula about how it had so many different stuff to it, like letters and news articles and things like that, which is harder to convey in, like, a movie, and that's a genuine part of the experience

00000000

@fireplacecat

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:23 AM

The sentry gun, Ripley finding out about her daughter, the Hadley's Hope flashback, and Burke's final scene were all cut from the film

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:23 AM

It's been so long since I watched that movie

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:23 AM

I don't remember almost any of that

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:23 AM

Ripley finding out about her daughter I knew about, although as a cut that one is straight up offensive

EsperBot

@PikaBot

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:24 AM

The movie’s major theme makes no sense without it!

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:25 AM

Back to Dracula real quick

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:25 AM

I have read it

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:25 AM

And

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:25 AM

The multimedia aspect of it is interesting?

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:25 AM

But like

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:25 AM

It doesn't really hold up all the way to the end

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:25 AM

The last third of the book is just prose out of characters' journals

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 5:28 AM

Animaniacs Alien

for posterity

Love Snake Kaja

@kajarainbow

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 11:40 AM

I remember Dracula being spooky when I read it but also with some weird scenes like the spider eating guy

kamikasei

@kamikasei

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 11:43 AM

Maven from Vampire Reviews has talked about this when discussing seminal old stuff like The Vampyr, Dracula, and Carmilla, the idea that at the time people had an idea of what "a vampire" was that these charming aristocrats didn't fit, and so they were genuinely surprising and subversive to their contemporary audience

Hazard Kitten

@RShini

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 1:53 PM

yeah, Vampires if they knew it were basically what we'd think of Ghouls - hideous cunning corpses and corporeal plagues on towns, not cunning aristocrats capable of blending in and planning.

Villain

@Overbringer

Sun, Oct 11, 2020 1:58 PM

Fascinating