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I keep thinking i'm gonna open my mouth about polyamory and how it's treated outside of shipping and immediately becoming So exhausted
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And then i decided to try and see if there were any polyam apps like how the Pair app used to be a private thing for couples but only got Tinder For Threesomes apps
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tiring
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Avis Hunter
lays here w u
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holds ur hand and sighs
Haunted Boobs
Ooof, big mood
skerple
god
skerple
it's not a hard concept to expand to real people!!
Haunted Boobs
You'd think
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I KNOW RIGHT
ѕαмѕα
it's really not????
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everyone involved is happy and okay with it, what the fuck else is there to understand
Haunted Boobs
RIGHT? Like...even if you don't understand how people can have relationships that work that way, if it is working and they're happy, that's it. That is all you (general) need!
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yep
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But it does get so very tiring and just...idk, it just sucks so often feeling like you have to explain and justify your relationship when it's a 'non-traditional' one.
Beans
yeah
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/other reasons I hate having to interact with my sister's extended in-law family
fish deranged
its especially frustrating when that's their solution to EVERY shipping "rivalry" even when it's not ic for the characters, but they can't possibly imagine real people being able to do it
skerple
even if you just like emotionally have trouble reconciling it happening in the real world with how you were taught about relationships growing up, just! be kinder about it!!
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its not just a way to get all the hot people to kiss
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it takes work and communication and respect
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and not everyone is down for it and that's okay
Haunted Boobs
It's like they get it into their head that real people can't help but be jealous or whatever
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the most confused i was ever on the subject is when people opened me up to poly-Vs and such bc for the longest time i always thought of it as "everyone dating each other" but even then it was more just an "oh!" revelation and not like. BUT HOW DOES IT WORK kind of thing
skerple
"I'm having a lil trouble getting my head around that but more power to y'all doing what makes you all happy"
fish deranged
I am once again asking for any consideration of real people as multifaceted individuals, fandom
Haunted Boobs
I know that's the big sticking point I run into with people.
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fish deranged : oh fucking mood
Haunted Boobs
I've had people flat out tell me 'I don't believe you, you're just saying that' when I've said that actually, I have never once, in our years together, been jealous of my partner's other partner.
fish deranged
lmao yeah the idea that jealousy is normal and healthy and the default is toxic as shit
Haunted Boobs
IT REALLY IS!
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and is NOT the same as wanting an exclusive relationship
Avis Hunter
Also like its okay???? If you cant imagine it????? Bc its not YOUR relationship its not your business!!!! Not everyone has the same ideal relationship............ if they did, relationships would always work out lol
fish deranged
you can be exclusive and still not be a shitlord
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LMAO RIGHT LIKE ultimately why do you care
Avis Hunter
Humans are notoriously bad at minding their business. It shouldnt be so hard to just say “not for me” and move on
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also jealousy is like
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a thing that one can handle and overcome
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jealousy being present in a relationship doesn't mean it's the end-all-be-all for a relationship
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it means... it's something that can be worked through, and that someone can get over
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not ot mention it's completely natural in a polyam relationship to experience smaller jealousies in the form of "I wish I could be participating in what my paramour and partner are experiencing right now"
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it's about dealing with those in adult ways and finding solutions and not imposing your jealousy on your partners
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and about respecting folks's autonomy and the idea that you don't have to be someone's One And Only to be important to them
Haunted Boobs
YES!
corpse bride
^ this
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because I think it's unhealthy to say "well, poly folks never get jealous," but it's something that can and should be examined and worked through
corpse bride
it's usually a sign that some emotional or mental need is going unfulfilled, and there are ways to address that in an adult manner
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just like, idk, there's a LOT of thigns that shouldn't be imposed on your partners- yeah!
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like at some point i was feeling BIG fomo because tey and jaq (just as friends!) found a new thing they loved (overwatch) that I couldn't participate in, and being super into it that was ALL THEY DID for the longest time
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and i definitely got jealous, and eventuall had to say "hey is there something we can also do, or something we can all do together as a house? I feel left out a lot because Overwatch is something I can't come play with you guys"
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and we resolved it and got into more games together nad now i don't feel that way and no one is hurt because i didn't turn my jealousy into being a big fucking bitch
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i also recognize that my partner is allowed to have time with people that aren't me! the problem at the time was just that because it was a new game, it was e v e r y d a y
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and that got resolved!
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Oh yeah, absolutely. I was just commenting on something that I've had multiple (pointless, essentially) conversations with extended family about that drives me crazy, re the jealousy thing.
fish deranged
Oh yeah I was more talking about how jealousy, to a very horrific and destructive level, is treated as just normal baseline
fish deranged
Jealousy on its own is a thing people do experience and that's fine but like. Treating it as a core part of a relationship instead of something to be resolved is the issue I was talking about
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oh absoLUTEly
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so people can't imagine a polyam relationship because they can't imagine letting their partner exist at all outside of them
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which is... oof
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toxic monogamy
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i think a lot of it has a lot to do with just like, in society we treat people like possessions
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and that can happen in ANY relationship, you know i'm the first to want to dunk the 'but really everyone is secretly polyam and it's so much more ENLIGHTENED' bullshit in the trash
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but it feels like by virtue of having to communicate more (if you're relationshipping right) it's easier to head that kind of creepy possessiveness off at the pass
Haunted Boobs
Yeah, there are so many really awful social constructs that have been built up around relationships in general that are just accepted as normal aspects of society :/
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yup...
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but it's true, most of the time you are
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but the unfortunate part in polyam relationships is that sometimes people are really good at pretending they aren't like that
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with so many polyamorous friends we've seen people try to insert themselves in a way to take one partner away from the other and it never turns out well bc it's just hurt feelings all around
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yeah ... or people who assume that's what's happening when it's not
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looks loudly @ michaela
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god
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yeah, that too
skerple
man, and like - the emotion of jealousy, at a normal and reasonable level, is (or SHOULD be) basically just a check engine light
skerple
like the thing to do is NOTICE that you're feeling jealous, and then take a step back like "hmm"
skerple
"how should I address this emotional response"
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yeah!! which admittedly not a lot of people are taught to assess it like that
skerple
"is this something where the root cause is something I can/should act on? or do I need to adjust how I'm thinking about a thing?"
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"maybe I'm getting inappropriately invested in a situation and should step back?"
skerple
METACOGNITION: IT'S NOT JUST FOR SCI-FI
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I have a rl friend/coworker who is polyam and yeah the way people as a whole treat it is gross
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like she had issues at work where a woman was loudly and openly talking about fucking her husband and people didn't gaf but then when my friend talked cleanly about both a husband and a boyfriend those same people got uppity
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fuckin, rude
Avis Hunter
W o w
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Bitches be jealous
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Which is ironic considering
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