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actually that meme reminded me of a setting concept I was never QUITE able to get to work
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But the basic idea was that there was a chosen one who was destined to save the world
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And the protagonist wasn't the chosen one but didn't realize it
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So he spends the first half of his story preparing to fight the ultimate evil
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And then loses
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And then spends the second half of the story trying to subtly guide the ACTUAL chosen one
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But he knows that the forces of darkness have their eyes on him so he HAS to limit his contact with the chosen one
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Resulting in the protagonist being the super badass but mysterious mentor character who says cryptic shit to the hero and then vanishes without explaining anything
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I imagined the protag had a friend who was a mage of some kind
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Who had a spell that could temporarily mask them from being tracked by the forces of evil
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
honestly that's probably the best excuse for a mentor to be that way, like
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So you'd have a scene where they had that spell up and were trying to explain things to the chosen one but before they can get into the meat of things the mage is like "Two minutes"
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And he's like "fuck" and vanishes
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'literally if i stuck around long enough to explain the forces of evil would find and kill you'
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So the chosen hero is having their own battle
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Off in the background
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While the protag is running around the edges, keeping villains the chosen ones aren't high enough level to fight yet from finding them
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Playing misdirection
Quinn Angstrom
perhaps it's part of the prophetic mechanics that the chosen one can't know he's the chosen one
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perhaps
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so that he can't go like "listen I have 2 minutes you're the chosen one ask important questions first"
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Instead he has to like
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frame HIMSELF for various attrocities
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And then be like "Ahaha you fool of a hero. YOu know nothign!"
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"If you want to face me then seek me out at [LOCATION OF THE NEXT PLOT MACGUFFIN]"
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So you've got the party of young, stalwart heroes who are fighting dragons and freeing down and then you've got the party of older, tired, more morally gray heroes who have already failed to save the world and now are working in the shadows so that someone else can still get a chance
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But the camera follows the old guys instead of the young guys
Echo
Shit, that's so cool.
ShaynaIsHere
it IS.
I support this.
A Grinning DM
If I owned a major game studio I would probably steal this idea because I think it could make a million dollars.
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It would be tricky to land the ending
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Since you come down to the ultimate problem of
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"The player fights the final boss half way through the game and loses"
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"Then in the finale an NPC fights the final boss and wins"
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"And that's kinda lame"
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Like I think you could DO it but it would be tricky
Infychu
I feel like you'd want something like "Your party is holding off the mooks and/or sneaking around doing the set up for said NPC to be CAPABLE of saving the day instead of getting completely murdered."
Infychu
So it'd be like a final boss escort mission instead of a traditional battle.
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even then that's kind of an anticlimax
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Truth
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I think what you'd need
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is a secondary villain that you CAN beat
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Someone who isn't as cosmically powerful and undefeatable
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But is still just really fun to HATE
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You fight Kuja while the party fights Necron
Infychu
Yeah, that works. Have The Big Bad fight happen off screen.
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Or, alternatively
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Have the chosen one join your party for the finale
Quinn Angstrom
or you fight the reason that there has to be a cycle of chosen ones and dark lords every generation
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to ensure that this truly is the final battle
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there you go
kamikasei
I had an idea years back for a game where you are the final boss
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