Ziri✖O
hey fam a friend is wanting to try out gunbreaker but wants to start as a low level tank to dip their toes into blue dps. Are any of the other tanks close to gunbreaker, play style-wise?
Ziri✖O
I mean. I've been a paladerp since Heavensward and I did cap warrior and gunbreaker but I'll admit I didn't know what i was doing with war and gunblade
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mmmm. no, actually. the other tanks don't have quite the same rotation as gnb.
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might as well just play any of them just to get used to tanking.
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
yeah not that i know of tbh, gnb is kind of odd
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
yeah GNB is more like a pre-ShB tank. I'd say just go with whichever
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
if story/lore is important to them I'd suggest DRK, but playstyle wise the other three tanks are pretty much equivalent
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
o7 thank you all! fair enough
I wanted to start with gnb but then instantly realized "oh there is so much stuff on my hotbars already and I have no idea what I need to memorize about dungeon bosses past the first few so I fear touching levelling roulette, rip"
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
tbf gnb was my first tank but it feels very different to something like drk
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GNB is my favorite tank but it plays more like a dps than a tank, though it's CDs are at least straightforward.
Ziri✖O
As someone who played paladin for four years I got gunbreaker unlocked and immediately left it alone because it was Too Much for my brain out of nowhere
Ziri✖O
I was pretty sure it was a totally different creature from the other tanks but as I'd only played one tank seriously I wasn't sure if it was Just Me so I figured I'd ask
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
similar problem for me but without the tanking experience, laughs
I understand the basic DPS part of the rotation fine (me, seeing that step two heals you a lil: ooh shiny)
but oh god that's so many cooldowns when do I use them. what
Ziri✖O
bruh I can't even begin to tell you it's still too many buttons for me
Ziri✖O
I got it to 80 by the grace of MSQ roulette, pixie quests, and trust dungeons
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
trust dungeons are a blessing
I'm so glad I got AST to 71
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
I was beginning to struggle in 60+ dungeons on specific bosses and the only way to get better is practicing, but I don't want to put random DF players through me failhealing
especially when I have no sprout as an excuse
the Scions won't care if I failheal ;__;
eutrope 🌸
I hear it's more similar to MCH than any of the other tanks, unfortunately MCH would only teach them to hit a lot of buttons in the right order and not teach them how to mitigate. I'd say level up any other tank to practice mitigation in live content as they can't practice that on a dummy, otherwise hit a dummy a lot on GNB to get familiar with the rotation
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
^ as someone who mains GNB I can provide tips in terms of what to hit first/what to keep up, but it’s still a lot of the same idea of all the other tanks- except it also has a dps rotation, which was debunked for all other tanks in ShB
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
GNB is fun and provides a lot of entertainment but I really would advise WAR or PLD first, even if PLD bores me to tears pre-70
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
I fucking love DRK and main it as well but DRK also has a one trick pony so like
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
It has other mitigations but DRK is That One Tank which has That Mega Bigass Mitigation that you use all the time
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
Also Ziri, if you’re still on Crystal I can always jump on for them to show them what I mean, I have all the tanks at 80
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
(I love tanking so much so teaching it to others thrills me to no end)
eutrope 🌸
ye I was just going to mention that, I think DRK can be both good and bad in terms of learning tank for new players, while TBN (The Mega Bigass Mitigation) can teach "bad" tanking bc it covers you so hard that you barely have to map other CDs, if you're new to say savage and -
eutrope 🌸
your brain is full of other things e.g. mechanics/boss positioning it can be really clutch
ArtIsArt
I play the unloved tank (Warrior) so I am No Help Here.
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
yUP
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
speaking as someone who tanked for savage
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪
it was always rough to go from DRK to PLD because I'd only pop TBN, while PLD insisted on at least two mitigations on my end
Ziri✖O
𝕙𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠, 𝕤𝕦𝕟𝕕𝕒𝕪 : yiii I'm on Crystal but I have no idea what DC «Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ» is on
eutrope 🌸
LOL I'm the same, I started tanking in Eden's Gate on DRK and when I had to switch to PLD for a bit my brain just broke. on the other hand when I was progging LL for the first time on tank DRK was a godsend, was my first time having to position bosses within tighter timings because what is boss positioning in Gate lol
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
unfortunately I am not on Crystal, no
but it's appreciated!
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
I'm too lazy to level both my main and an alt, laughs (at least not unless I manage to max everything on my main somehow)
eutrope 🌸
which dc are you on?
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
Aether!
eutrope 🌸
same, my schedule is very sporadic (read: mostly nocturnal) but i'm down to run stuff if we're both on if you'd like
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
I found DRK way better for dungeons than PLD (esp in ShB content), but preferred WAR or PLD for raids
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
(WAR is also fun in dungeons haha)
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
my drk main friend loves it for savage content
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
I haven't had a chance to try current DRK in Savage yet, since everyone always needs me healing alas
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
lmao valid
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
he loves abusing TBN and it sounds like it works well for him
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
but I did also find the benefit of DRK not having TBN until 70 was that it made me much more aware of all my other CDs at lower levels
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
yeah i only maxed drk recently but i found i learned to balance my cooldowns a little better than i do on gnb
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
so then the adjustment wasn't 'how to use CDs properly when needed' it was 'USE TBN!!'
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
i am, to be fair, an awful tank but still
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
best TBN practice for me was Malikah's Well or w/e it's called
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
boss aoe on floor that also knocks back??? nah fam I'm TBN and you're giving me free dmg
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
lmfao
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
i haven't yet gotten an opportunity to really break out tbn myself but i'm still working on trust leveling
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
it's super fun on that one golem boss with the water spouts
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
it also helped me finish the last like 8% of that boss solo bc PF group was bad...
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
I think my biggest tank tip is USE 👏 ARM'S 👏 LENGTH 👏 ON 👏 TRASH
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
the moment I clued in that it wasn't just knockback prevention I was like 👀👀👀👀
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
is it not
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
high chance of Slow on mobs that hit you
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
so 20% attacks taken by those mobs while they're Slowed, since that's the speed reduction between attacks
★ тяу-нαя∂уи
....huh
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
it's really good
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
and it's on DPS to so in a pinch you can be a baby tank while the tank is ressed or w/e
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
*too
N ᴇ ᴛ ʜ ◈◇◇
(physical dps at least)
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
eutrope 🌸 /comes back here late but sure! depending on timezones and schedules
eutrope 🌸
ye arms length is op
eutrope 🌸
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ» : what kind of time are you usually on?
«Wᴀɴᴅᴇʀᴇʀ»
if I'm on, usually it's somewhere between 5-11pm ET/2-8pm PT
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