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[Hades] Musing about tactical choices in detail
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GODS BOONS:
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Dionysus: Has the BEST attack/special boost in the game, for my money
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The DOT on hangover damage is absurd
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I'm a big fan of Festive Fog too
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Festive Fog is pretty good
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If you combo it with a grenade focused Adamant Rail things get silly
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You only want one source of hangover damage though because they stack weird
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You max out at 5 stacks of hangover
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So if your special hangover is 8 damage per tick and your dash hangover is 4 damage per tick
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I think the dash procs kind of clutter up your damage stack
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His utility boons are kinda lacking, I think
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not terrible, but rarely my first choice
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Artemis: I didn't like her at first, but she has grown on me
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Support Fire is one of the best boons in the game, especially with a rapid fire weapon
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And if you can get a few boons from her you can start REALLY stacking on the damage
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but I rarely take her shit for my cast, special, or attack
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Ares: the blade whirlwinds are all solid choices and one of my favorite combos is Doom on the shield special
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just apply big fat chunks of damage on your shield boomerang and become a ranged murder machine
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Ares also has the best call boon in the game
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I think his God Call power is the best in the game too
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although I feel like it got nerfed a bit
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yeah
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the duration feels shorter than it used to
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for sure
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But like
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you do insane damage while it's active AND you're invincible
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damn
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yeah that just makes it the best one by a smaller margin
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Demeter: A weird one
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I think her freeze mechanic is pretty shitty on it's own?
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But if you go ALL IN on her she gets super ridiculous
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Also her Cast upgrade is the best in the game for my money
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And her Call is pretty solid in a fire and forget sort of way
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but LASER TURRETS
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agreed, the cast upgrade is one of the few that makes me actually remember to use cast
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Athena: Not my favorite, but she has been slowly growing on me
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freeze becomes way better if you get the boon that makes it frost nova at ten stacks
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yea
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I think Athena's dash boon might be my favorite
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It's not as flashy as some of the others but like
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Goddamn the utility it brings to the table is insane
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the most readily-accessible Reflect this side of the shield
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yup
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her call boon sucks though
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And I generally don't go for her special/attack boons
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I think my least favorite call boon goes to artemis
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Aphrodite: Aphrodite sucks
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Just not a fan of any of her shit
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Some of the passives are alright
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like the one that makes enemies explode on death
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Or her revenge boon
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I think Different League is probably her best boon
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I always resist getting revenge boons in general
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because my brain goes 'just don't get hit'
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I just assume
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I'm going to get hit
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But they're a pretty low priority yeah
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Poseidon: ehhhhhh?
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I'm not wild about Poseidon
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He's alright but he's like...my fourth favorite pick for any category
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He's like demeter in that he's kinda underwhelming unless you go all in on his shit
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Razor Shoals is pretty hilarious
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I like him on the shield's attack because I mainly use the shield's special
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so then the attack just becomes "Back the FUCK off"
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Zeus: He's alright
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None of his shit is BAD but none of it really stands out
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Is that everyone?
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I like zeus's dash boon
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Yeah it's pretty good
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Hermes: He's an odd duck
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He's in a separate category from the other gods
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Like if you have the keepsakes that summon a specific god, Hermes can still appear before them
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My favorite Hermes boons are Greater Haste, Side Hustle, and the one that gives you extra dashes
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the doge chance one is good too
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dodge*
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then chaos is even more their own thing
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I like Chaos but they're SO situational
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WEAPONS
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- Favorite weapon is the Shield by like an order of magnitude
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If you can get some good damage boons on your special you can do obscene damage from a safe distance
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But if you get caught in melee range you're still VERY potent
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- Sword is....alright? It's the starter weapon and I don't think it's super interesting. Plus it forces you to fight up close which is not where I'm the most comfortable
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- Spear is good and versatile
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I've had a lot of luck chaining dash strikes with the spear
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especially with that daedalus hammer upgrade that triple-strikes on dash
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Yeah
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- I don't really like the Bow because I don't like holding still long enough to charge up my shots
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But I've had some good luck with the Chiron aspect
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Alternate attacks and specials
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with some good boons you can do a SHIT TON of damage
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And Quinn is gonna fight me for this but I like the rapid fire upgrade that gets rid of power shots
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Who cares if they're perfectly aimed arrows I'll just shoot MORE
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I have already begun charging the power shot that will punish you for your heresy
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- Fists are, I would say, the most FUN weapon
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Not necessarily the best because you have to get RIGHT up in people's faces to do the most damage
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But you do so much damage
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And you can upgrade them in lots of fun ways
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- Adamant Rail I'm not SUPER fond of?
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It's kinda awkward to use I think, since you can't move while firing
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I think the "correct" way to build it is to focus on the grenades rather than the bullets
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and just shit explosions everywhere
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I love Artemis's call boon
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let it build to max and then watch it just delete a boss health bar right through shields
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Also I strongly disagree about the rail
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With the right upgrades its attack is one of the best in the game
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The grenades are way too awkward to rely on (unless you get the daedalus upgrade that turns it into a rocket launcher)
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Both have their uses
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The best thing about this game is that there are SO many ways to build Zagreus
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And like most of them are solid
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Like yeah you have to hold still while you shoot but you have range and you can freely cancel out of attack into a dash without even losing DPS
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I think the best use of the Rail's mortar is the daedalus upgrade that slows down enemies in the targeted area
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so not only are you more likely to hit them it helps keep them at range for your primary fire
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I acknowledge that the rail is good while hating it
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THe only weapon I'm not huge on is the Bow