supernatural: a summary
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supernatural: a summary
supernatural: a summary
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
Hahaha yesss
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tbh strong suspicion the entire supernatural show is just a full life consequences ripoff
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holy shit ... you cracked the code
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sometimes i want to catch up on supernatural
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and then i get scared LMFAO
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it's cool man basically what happens is sam comes in at the end and shoots the boss in the eye and then dean punches him and they win
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and then at the end of the season the cliff hanger is the giant next boss steps on dean
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ur not missin much
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does it always step on dean
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or does it sometimes step on sam
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so like it's always dean and it really upsets sam fans
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do sam fans want sam to be dommed by monsters
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i think they want sam to dom the monsters with his brain
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they tried giving him a headcrab once in season 4 but
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how do i not remember the headcrab wtf
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𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
Yes, it's always Dean except for season 5. And even then, emotionally, it is Dean
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and then after that, every season ends with making Dean's life a bit worse
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
or what the fuck
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in a nutshell
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tbh
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supernatural just can't stick the landing
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esp after kripke left
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you know, Sera Gamble had some... she made some choices with her writers, but there were always these bright shining episode spots here and there and really great ideas like how Dean and Sam get spoiler back. Although, ULTIMATELY, that led nowhere
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i have
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a lot of opinions
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about sera gamble man and most of them are not positive
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stares into season 7
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had to watch that shit fuckin. air. week after week.
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it was so brutal
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man I tapped out after s5
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what happened?
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kripke left
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and
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season 6 got like. questionable, I personally liked most of it but
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that's because it was some of the gayest shit that ever happened on that show but
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season 7
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sera's approach was pretty much just
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let's kill literally everyone, take everyone away that they love, take their car, take their home, turn this into 18 episodes of the angstiest shit you have ever seen
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rush bringing a character back, fuck it up, and make the monsters some of the worst
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the worst
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monsters
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in the entire show
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with bad cgi
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and the main villain literally named dick so it was almost entirely dick jokes
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and the overarching plot was just. monsters make people soylent green. basically. like.
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with like
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3 redeeming qualities
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tops
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one of them being some of the great new recurring characters
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ughhh that sounds miserable
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another being just that jensen and misha and jared acted the fucking shit out of it as best they could and some of their performances were stellar
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and then meg, the end
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LMAO
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really the only thing it was good for was getting dean into purgatory which honestly helped season 8 bring it out of the gutter for a while
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I loved Meg (':
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and Benny Lafitte
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yepppp, benny in season 8 was so so good
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charlie
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garth
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really quality ones
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dj qualls is a treasure
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kevin's mom
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I read a long ass essay about how one guy thought season 8 was the way the writers were going to have Dean come out as bi LMAO
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I loved Kevin's mom
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but at this point, it just feels like, people just don't survive. and we lost such great female characters so early on like Jo and Ellen and Bela
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I will never not be mad about them
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especially bela
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BELA
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Ruby, I got. for the plot. twice
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PEOPLE HATED HER SO MUCH LMFAO
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but. the writers so clearly killed off every woman that crossed a Winchester's path
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y e p
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
ALSO CASSIE. whatever happened to the love of Dean's life??
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I'll forgive Sam's werewolf girlfriend because I loved that episode but man
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I liked Lisa I guess. and the Ben part of it
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oh yes yeah
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OH MAN I forgot about cassie
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
everyone does.
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season 1
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the racist truck though. sigh
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LMFAO
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goddd
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I liked the Kripke years, as everyone did but Supernatural was always very imbalanced. not that it shouldn't have been about the brothers
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I loved tessa too
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i will forever remember cassie if only bc u know coincidentally she shares a name
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there's also
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a really really really good episode
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and oh yeah for sure, supernatural has a huge issue with its female characters
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in season 8 or 9 I forget which, where we get a flashback ep to Dean being stranded in a boy's home for troubled kids for a few weeks
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and he has his first teen love there and it is so fucking beautiful and tragic when his dad shows back up to rip him away
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
oooh
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
the mythology just gets more and more and more convoluted
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they really do fuck up all their female characters
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because they only have 1 of 3 paths for them
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1 - they hire a bad actress and she's not compelling
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2 - they hire a good actress but she's a villain so she has to die
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3 - they hire a good actress but she's angst fodder for the boys inevitably so she has to die
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that's. that's all. that's it.
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
THAT'S ALL
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
well
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
4. they hire a good actress and she disappears
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y e p
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
like Loretta Devine's Missouri!
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missouri comes back!!
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we get an ep with her
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WHEN
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in the later seasons
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oooh
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
OK
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i think it's like 12 or 13 maybe?
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proven wrong
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it's wild
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I'm usually ride or die for female characters too so supernatural was rough for me lmfao
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yepppp
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i was so pissed about meg
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i fuckin loved meg
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i would have been almost okay if they'd stopped at Jo, because Jo and Ellen were like Enough you know?
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I didn't get to know black haired meg
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it felt impactful, it hurt, it resonated, they should have just
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left it there
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
yes, Jo and Ellen, for me with the writing. their deaths. I got it
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
you created compelling characters.
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
and they were hunters
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fine
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black haired meg was soso good, she really came out with personality and just nailed it
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
but, it just. keeps. happening.
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and then we got charlie by felicia day, the lesbian queen and Dean's best friend
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I like Misha. I like Castiel. but, he only goes so far
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so of course
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
yes, I do love Charlie
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she had to go
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I think jo and ellen bug me a lot more in hindsight
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
didn't she disappear with Dorothy into a parallel world?
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she came back later
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after dean got the mark of cain
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he beat the shit out of her and she survived and then later on she died and I forget how but it's horseshit
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
ugh no SHE died too?
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yep
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
and I like some things, too. like I love Jack!
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
the writing is just so inconsistent
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jack grew on me when I realized it wasn't the character I had a problem with but rather the storylines
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jack is cute but man
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I can't speak for later seasons but it definitely felt like if a female character was a love interest or in some way challenged the boys/held her own against them she was killed off
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the stories they write in those seasons are so hamfisted
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oh yeah 10/10 every love interest died - or got removed
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Lisa's still alive
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but
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yep
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
well
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she may as well be dead
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
Lisa never had a standing chance
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
yeah
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for all she matters anymore
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
Supernatural never has a real sense of history past season... 7
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and they really fuckin sucked at Sam's girl in season 8, amelia was just
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so unrelatable
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I mean, for one season they deal with the season before's consequences. ... and then
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I will say it was awesome they brought back Jimmy Novak's daughter and made her a recurring badass
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
yes
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and jodi is fantastic
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but also like
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the reason I picked Dean up again is because
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I feel like sometime about midway through season 14
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supernatural got nostalgic and started remembering its past
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alas cw shows
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I can see that
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
in what I've watched here and there
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and it felt like a little bit closer to what I liked about it
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I LOVED the episode John came back, I did
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they brought back JDM as john for a really touching ep
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yeah
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gave me a few of someone else's tears definitely not my own
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
not your own no never
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we got an episode with Pamela in it
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
the blind psychic?!
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
from season .. 4??
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yep
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I do like that
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like i'm tellin ya dude
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they get super nostalgic
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they brought back adam winchester fuckin FINALLY
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I also have loved Dean and Sam's journeys and characterizations.
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we had an ep with Ruby
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I didn't love the Ruby ep, I did watch that one
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yeah it was medicore but
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
and is sister Jo Annael?
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yeah
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
so confusing
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i'm putting it on the list of them going back and remembering their history
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
all this reminds me I need Dean CR
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here 4 u buddy
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and yeah dean and sam's characterization and journey has REALLY GOOD POINTS but also they fucking fuck that shit up to suit the plot ALL THE TIME and it pisses me off
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and they regress
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and I elect to ignore it
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
which makes sense, the final two seasons, it's about history and acknowledgement. 'they do.
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
they really do
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and sometimes they make Dean a meathead moron when like 3 seasons prior he was hacking into traffic cams and reading vonnegut and shit
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so frustrating
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
he was hacking into traffic cams?
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yep
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
see, Dean isn't a meathead. maybe he was the simpler brother, but he grows?
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
grows!*
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I have so many opinions about that
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so
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he's simpler in the sense that he has less formal education, and that's because his father was like lol school? your job is sam. look out for your brother idgaf
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priority number 1 sam
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
yep
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
priority 2 demons
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
priority 10 girls
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so all of his energy went into making sure Sam stayed consistent and did his homework and got smart, and meanwhile there's literally no point for Dean to even TRY in high school because they're just gonna move in 2 weeks
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
yeah huff. :3
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
i need to
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
not tl;dr right now
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
but
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
here for it yo
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
yeah dean's a smart dude but he forces himself into that "i'm not the brains" role because that's what his insecurity and his upbringing have made for him
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
mhm
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
he's also emotionally capable and more emotionally in tune than canon lets him be sometimes
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
yes
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
very
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I feel like Dean recognizes thing and pays attention and he's damn self aware
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
he's incredibly emotionally intelligent and he is very capable of having really good heart to hearts, but some writers take his "keeping shit together" mask and they turn it into "dean is cold" or "dean is emotionally stunted" and there's
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
a huge difference
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
it's true
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
he's had really deep, real conversations
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
because he is self aware, and there's a difference between being emotionally damaged and emotionally stunted
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
he's the one who accepts his fate in season 3 and tries to get his brother through it
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
yes, and he is not stunted
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
not acknowledging things in order to cope is not the same as not being capable of it
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
yeah exactly, all of season 3 dude
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
and even season 4, throughout all of Sam's shit, he REALLY TRIES in places
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
in every conceivable angle
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
even after their insane fight
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
season 6, first being remarkably loyal to Cas and then trying to rationalize with him
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
it really comes down to
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
when you play from supernatural
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
you have to pick and choose what to keep and what to drop to stay consistent, because god fucking knows the writers aren't
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
I can understand that
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
and it's legitimately possible, I think, to write dean better than the show sometimes considering they bring in random ass writers who just sit around jerkin off on a page without a care in the world
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
trying to make plot archs work
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
the end
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
lmao
𝘿𝙀𝘼𝙉 𝙎𝙇𝘼𝙎𝙃 𝘾𝘼𝙎
end ted talk
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
yeah
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
im
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
lmao
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
im so sorry
ⲉⲙ—ᴅαsԋ
playin that motherfucker since 2012