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Oh Marxists. I don't know if you or USPol party tm Libertarians irk me more
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GLOMP
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There's just the constant obsession with what already exists
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o/
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good to see you <3
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I'm still dead XD SLIGHTLY better today
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^^
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I found the equate allergy meds make me not-hot
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they're weird :V
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good
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and tea :-P
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yup
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<3
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... Did I take my dailies
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fuck I don't remember
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ask Moose?
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he went to bed
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anyone to ask?
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I THINK I did not because I was kind of out of it and I tend to only do it when I get started with noms
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or if you know how many where still left
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yerah I didn't, I can see the area behind my laptop is a mess and I didn't straighten it yet XD
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<3
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Arguing with people on twitter about capitalism before taking my daily meds. SOUNDS LIKE A CC THING TO DO
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YUP
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take what you need
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try to get to my pps today if possible ty
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although omg I was talking about this with my Dad too; whether it's possible to be an ethical billionaire
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and I was like
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no it's fucking not
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Obviously he disagrees because he is Garp, and I am Smoker -- moosey says I am the Dragon to his Garp but Dragon has way more chill and is more about the government oppression and reverting the world back to the way it was before the WG than Smoker who is about fixing Justice from the inside out -> which is how I roll
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Marxists be all "Capitalism is innately corrupt at its core!"
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Which is stupid.
Whatson
"what is ethical?"

If we take societal norms, income doesn't matter if we are asking if a person is good or not. Is the question asking "holding billions of money is inherently bad" then are they unethical by default?
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"how much land does a man need?" Six by three?
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I don't know what you're trying to say here.
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First of all
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it's not about need
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It's about withholding from others and hoarding
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secondly, in order to become a billionaire, not only must you hoard and extract resources of others and from them, but there are other unethical steps that must be taken to get there
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UNETHICAL BEING = the VERY FUCKING ASSUMED BASICS not going into Kant Utilitarianism bullshit but the basic social contract you are immediately entered into upon being born
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ie: don't harm others
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not a hard fucking concept by any stretch
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while you cannot get through life without "harming others," I don't mean to get so deeply into the semantics of "BUT CC YOU USE OXYGEN THAT OTHERS NEEEEEEEDDDDDDD"
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You cannot go through life without harming others? Do you mean those you exist with or those who you consume?
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But the Kochs, Trumps, Waltons, Bezos, and even Bill Gates actively harm people and extract labour and resources from places, profit actively from war, strife, and pollution, and financially would be "harming themselves" to mitigate those
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8|
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I don't recognize bacteria and plant life as worthy of continuing existence over their contribution to the ecosystem. Likewise, I think the mere suggestion that eating meat is meaningful factor to climate change is a massive red herring by political assholes using the oligarch playbook
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Whatson
You drop names, but you can argue that they are less than good people to begin with
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It's not the process of becoming a billionaire that makes you immoral, it's the actions that gets you there. just as becoming poweful doesn't make you immoral, but because of the power involved, it will draw immoral people
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if not properly adjusted to avoid and thwart; invariably only the people without those morals will reach that level
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so I am not saying "they were good people until they got rich uwu"
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I'm saying
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the things you have to do and be okay with in order to maintain billions of dollars in wealth are immoral, unethical, harm people, full stop.
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also I'm going scream between the Marxist communists and USParty Libertarians
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STOP ARGUING RED VS. BLUE AND REALIZE YELLOW COULD BE PRETTY
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I'm so Bored of arguing about what already exists
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I'm so bored of them being like "capitalism is the oppression!!!!" while using it themselves and having no greater solution or thoughts to follow through
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I'm so annoyed with the libertarians who think the status quo as it already exists is ~~~ flawlesss~~~ and people should be beholden to an artificial system instead of vice versa
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bored of that too. like. my god. READ ANOTHER BOOK
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they always say that SJWs have only read Harry Potter but ffs
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if you were really "all about the capitalism" and "all about the meritocracy" then you would be all about fixing the problems and purposely seeking them out tchhhaaaaaaaaa
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I'm listening to the "second civil war" that is supposedly on the horizon between the state of Virginia and it's Second Amendment sanctuary counties.
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Yeah no, that's not gonna happen, and it's definitely not going to be over ----- you do know that Russia has been using the NRA to illegally fund elections, right? And that Russia has been the only ones trying to push the USA = 2nd civil war imminent since the USSR time?
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besides almost 99% of the counties already declared themselves sanctuary making the VA restrictions divided into country enforcement anyway
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which in reality, guns' rights were
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if anything VA is more like a science experiment with objective controls now
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which plays into the CDC's hands, NRA dipshits (the lobbyists, not the people obvs. I've still got my own gun club card as CC Koppos, ta) just assume they can continue to block the information from even existing, but they already know through facebook and news media aggregates, that no, it won't be
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*glosses over
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If the US does start to crack into a civil war; it won't be left vs. right, red vs. blue, gun culture, racism, religion, or anything that applies to what idiot Russians WHO DIDN'T FUCKING GROW UP HERE AND LIVE AND BREATHE DAILY think/suggest
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it'll be the very very very VERY obvious: rich and who they can dupe or bribe to their side vs. everyone else.
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Occupy Movement was a baring of teeth and a warning growl. The rich smacked it down hard. The next warning bark was Bernie Sanders -- again, they smacked it down hard. The first bite was Trump. That was the not-rich saying "you guys aren't as smart as you fucking think" to the rich.
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NEXT depends
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money "side" doesn't understand governance, civics, history, law, politics, society etc. THIS IS NOT THEIR GAME, THIS IS NOT THEIR CIRCUS. they are good at getting money that's their game. that's their thing. they are good at that.
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but as Russians accurately point out as well; no one can know what the Americans are going to do next because the AMERICANS don't know what they're going to do next.
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you can count on money to be greedy and fairly stupid, and very very short-sided. They already have, are, and I see no reason that should change.
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they only have one page in their playbook as I've said a billion times already
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and used it against Jeremy Corbyn to get Boris Johnson
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spoilers: it's racism.
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they just double prong it so they can pretend one side is fighting on behalf of X and the other side is fighting on behalf of Y and gee shouldn't you be worried about those ~~~others~~~
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solutions are simple, but it's always hard to start a wave
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Although I AM SAYING anyone talking about gun rights being cause for a 2nd US civil war is just helping Russia. Democrats are big giant babies who sell guns, while the reds fear-monger them as boogeyman, they do not have the BALLS to confiscate a pea shooter.
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Republicans Block The FEC From Calling The FBI About...
solutions are simple CC keeps reminding herself
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