Beans
Do you think we've been conditioned to accept bad movie adaption designs?
Beans
this thought is brought to you by my brain reminding me there were people defending the original Sonic design when the first trailer came out
Beans
which isn't to say everyone just goes with the shit we get but
BERSERKER
I think some Sonic fans are conditioned to except bad anything as long as it has Sonic's face on it
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accept*
Beans
it's actually pretty amazing that the movie people heard the complaints and changed it
BERSERKER
Like, I know people who defend Sonic 06 without an ounce of irony
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I know people who defend Ken Penders even now
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etc etc
Beans
yeah true
Beans
but this also got me thinking about the transformers series
Beans
and how it took so long before the robots stopped looking like twisted piles of grey metal
BERSERKER
...transformers is a weird duck and I think it's got a lot of the same energy, where people are so used to being spat on that they just knee-jerk stan anything that comes along
Beans
.....yeah that's
Beans
probably also true
Beans
I remember the collective sigh of relief when Bumblebee was announced
𝒉𝒂𝒛𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝒌𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏
so basically stockholm syndrom
BERSERKER
...I don't know if it's quite the same as Stockholm
BERSERKER
like I think a lot of it is reactionary "oh no everyone hates this I HAVE TO FIND THE GOOD IN IT" mindwaves that get people defending the Bay movies, or the bad Sonics, or Pat Lee, or Ken Penders
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why you gotta ruin my dumb joke
BERSERKER
𝒉𝒂𝒛𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝒌𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒏 : because the stockholm is over there in the disney live action adaptations /bricked
Beans
god fuck the disney LA adaptions
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FAIR
BERSERKER
like, god. you can like TLK live action all you want but if you go onto a review website and call it "as good as the original" I am gonna throw hands
Beans
you're valid sword
Beans
I still don't see how people could sit through the Lion King remake with how it looked.
Beans
But then again I see way more shilling of Beyonce than anything, so
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admittedly beyonce is probably the best thing about that movie so
Beans
fair
Beans
Disney fans Transformer fans
Sonic Fans
Putting up with so much
Beans
I was hoping that would work but oh well
Beans
I mean, not all the designs are bad
Cold XC
I do think the overly-busy directing made them look worse
Beans
mainly the decepticons in my opinion
BERSERKER
The live action TF designs were kind of weird in that they were MUCH better in motion, except Bay refused to keep the camera on them in motion (see: busy directing)
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and they're just kinda... too busy for still images
Beans
Oh definitely there are merits!
skillmer
ok i will defend sonic's original design. not because it's good, but because it's so bad that it would be fucking hilarious to see him flail about for 90 minutes in an attempt to look cool
kinda like how the super mario bros movie was a gross looking mess but was still a blast to watch
Beans
I think the main issue is probably that the Autobot side is composed of only a few bots so their designs can be better thought out, especially with Optimus and Bumblebee but others like Ratchet and Drift
Beans
And even on the Decepticon side you have clear design choices like starscream, but you also have hulking shapes of nameless decepticon soldiers
Beans
BlankBlankity: honestly that's valid
Beans
I wouldn't enjoy the sonic movie if it looked like it originally did, but I'd watch it
skillmer
yeah i think i have a bias bc i've come to genuinely enjoy the super mario bros movie and i've been craving another movie like that
BERSERKER
yeah, ironic love turning sincere is different than "THIS IS ACTUALLY GOOD YOU ALL ARE JUST MEAN"
Lord Nick
I like the designs from the first Transformers movie but by the third on they seemed to have just stopped trying, at least with the Deceptions.
Lord Nick
Like this is true: I went to see Dark of the Moon and spent the entire next week wondering why Soundwave and Shockwave just sort of disappeared before I found out they both died in the movie.
Lord Nick
I honest to God had to go and rewatch it because I did not notice two major antagonists getting killed because I couldn't visually differentiate them from the hundreds of featureless grey bad guy robots.
Beans
Well they did try and design some new specific Decepticons for The Last Knight
Beans
They were...... bad, and immediately died
Lord Nick
I never watched Age of Extinction or The Last Knight. I quit after number three.
Beans
That's fair
Lord Nick
I won't launch into a rant here, mostly because I'm supposed to be getting ready for work, but needless to say the third infuriated me. The second one is awful but the third one was just... it made me mad.
Beans
no that's completely valid and so are you
Beans
three is definitely the worst one imo
Quinneapolis
Age of Extinction is my favorite bad movie of all time
Lord Nick
I have Battleship for that
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