
Quinn Angstrom
A major part of me that's bummed about Blizzard being evil is because, confession, I fucking love Diablo

Quinn Angstrom
Diablo 4 is a thing now I guess

Quinn Angstrom
Torchlight 3 is an MMO

Quinn Angstrom
I need my FIX

Quinn Angstrom
I need to run around and stab monsters with friends while getting incrementally better knives

Quinn Angstrom
Path of Exile I found unplayably frustrating with how it handles inventory

Quinn Angstrom
where there's no money system you just directly trade items for things, and it meant that I never EVER had close to enough identify/town portal scrolls

Quinn Angstrom
and items took up insane amounts of inventory space

Quinn Angstrom
Torchlight 2 was Correct with this

Quinn Angstrom
every item is one space, you can have your pet go and sell junk for you while you continue to dungeon crawl

NekoInc, MSPM
Yeaaaaah. It's doubly frustrating for me because I tried returning to D3 at some point and it's just. So. Slow.

NekoInc, MSPM
Like, low levels are just. Painful even more than PoE and PoE is painful as hell.

Quinn Angstrom
D3 died for me the moment they switched to autoscaling enemy levels

Quinn Angstrom
it was never fun after that

Quinn Angstrom
never once

Master Chieve
D3 was painfully dull with the auto scaling thing

Quinn Angstrom
leveling up effectively no longer made you stronger

Quinn Angstrom
and every enemy did 5x less damage and had 5x more health than it needed

Master Chieve
At which point, like

Master Chieve
What’s the fucking point?

Quinn Angstrom
every difficulty below Torment was a gameplay-free joke

Quinn Angstrom
on my first early-dev playthrough, I beat Belial in an exciting battle of dodging AOEs and shit

Quinn Angstrom
on my first late-dev playthrough, I beat Belial by holding down left click for five minutes while not moving

NekoInc, MSPM
Yeaaaah...

Ken
The question is, is D4 more like the Diablo you love or the Diablo you hate

Quinn Angstrom
I don't know

Quinn Angstrom
but I won't play it eitherw ay

Ken
I ask because given Blizzard’s tendency on things I’d more expect them to carry over design philosophies from their last iteration, it’s more likely to be like the things you didn’t like from later on in D3.

Ken
So less to be bummed about maybe.

Quinn Angstrom
either the things I didn't like about D3, or even worse, Diablo Immortals

Ken
A cursed but plausible thought

Quinn Angstrom
when will the magical diablo clone I yearn for come

Quinn Angstrom
I want to pick up items and judge which ones are better than the items I have now, then put those on

NekoInc, MSPM
Honestly I've pondered what would be involved in MAKING one for a while...

A Grinning DM
On the upside D4 is coming out in 2021 at the earliest so maybe they’ll have redeemed themselves by then?

A Grinning DM
The D4 trailer was super premature because Blizz’a stock value is 20% lower than it was 1 year ago and they really needed to get people excited this BlizzCon.

A Grinning DM
Alternatively, D4 May never come out because Blizz failed to impress investors this BlizzCon and the company in its current form might not have that much longer

penis bacon
honestly I liked Diablo 2 but never even touched D3 so I guess Blizzard being disgusting doesn't... really affect me?

penis bacon
I feel like Torchlight 2 was as close as the genre got to "perfect"

Quinn Angstrom
they would have to do a LOT to get me back