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BruberryMuffin
Man, I loved Missy.
Just Lore
Just Lore
I love her so much. And she and John Simm were just amazing
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yes
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but how must it feel remembering wanting yourself
Just Lore
Awkward...
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XD
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We have different opinions about this but that is a-ok 
papermint tiger
lol well. I mean. It's flattering probably XD
Wayward Haze
and then no one invited the other half of that gifset XD
and then no one invited the other half of that gifset XD
Wayward Haze
HI SIS
Just Lore
Lmao. Yeah I mean she was in a weird mindset there. Me, personally, I think it's weirdly hot lol.
Just Lore
She has mixed feelings. Sure it was tempting... But he was crazy pants and she was working through some shit.
papermint tiger
don't fuck crazy, even if it's you
Wayward Haze
also he'd been stranded on freaking Mondas anyone would be horny for themselves after that
Wayward Haze
m'just sayin
JingleBells
no no its not
no no its not
Just Lore
Lmao
tronja307020
yeah, uh, I'm also of the mindset of "Well, I mean-... 
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yeah, uh, I'm also of the mindset of "Well, I mean-... "
tronja307020
But man, Missy was so great, and her story arc ruined me!
CChuuni
lmfao I'm like "Well Mondas I'd be thirsty for myself too god"
Wayward Haze
SEE
CChuuni
JingleBells
:
Wayward Haze
:
JingleBells
:
Wayward Haze
:
CChuuni
Rose fancied herself too!
CChuuni
but he was gay which is still not the biggest problem with that
JingleBells
Yup! XD
CChuuni
I like that RTD Was like "So he's totally going to knock himself up so he can MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN he will always continue, right?"
CChuuni
RTD nooooo
Wayward Haze
Yeah I would have drawn the line at "self-reproducing Time Lord"
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ROFL but
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I mean
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if anyone would do that
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he would
Wayward Haze
I am not saying you're wrong. His plans are legendarily DUMB and made of crack
Wayward Haze
but really guys the Ponds were soapy enough
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XD I mean for me I'm like
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I don't know it's an interesting idea tho
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iirc Time Lords can't get pregnant
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or cause it
Wayward Haze
Is that actually a canon thing? Asking because I genuinely don't know
Wayward Haze
Not to be all is it really canon tho troll or anything
CChuuni
it is canon
CChuuni
well
CChuuni
was
CChuuni
it's
CChuuni
"flux" now
CChuuni
Rassilon instituted it TWICE
CChuuni
once pre-timewar
CChuuni
and DURING timewar
CChuuni
Romana 2 fixed it
CChuuni
but then Timewar
CChuuni
so now? who the fuck knows
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XD I think tho
CChuuni
and it's less that TimeLadies can't get pregnant (because they could but it'd have to be by other species) and more that TimeLords are sterile
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the ultimate question for Doctor Who is
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Is there Canon
CChuuni
/sob
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/S H R U G
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See, the problem is
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people think canon is a straight line
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but really it's just a big ball of timy wimey wibbly wobbly stuff
CChuuni
yes thank you
yes thank you
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that's also why there's thirteen or fourteen or fifteen or fifteen.five doctors depending on how you count
CChuuni
I MEAN YOU'RE NOT WRONG
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I know I'm not XD
CChuuni
/sob
Wayward Haze
I KNOW RIGHT UGH
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and like eighteen if you count the neverweres
Wayward Haze
It is simultaneously the best and the worst thing
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or kind of weres
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It's amazible
CChuuni
LOOK AS SOMEONE WHO STILL THINKS CANON = RELIGIOUS DOCTRINE AND THAT YOU HAVE TO DRAW LINES SOMEWHERE /shakes fist
CChuuni
although just because a pro publishes it doesn't mean you have to agree it's canon because gdi BBC
CChuuni
so "canon"
Wayward Haze
What Children of Earth, guys? I don't remember that. Must not be canon.
CChuuni
/cries
/cries
CChuuni
Army Lt. Father
Wayward Haze
Peter Capaldi was only ever a Roman before he was the Doctor
CChuuni
traumatized by it
CChuuni
JingleBells
xD
CChuuni
God though 21 ways to BREAK Rose Tyler: that's it. Just number 1
JingleBells
The Roman is really the Doctor didnt you know ? 
CChuuni
"you made Jack immortal and he hates it and had to sacrifice children and lost his lover/soulmate to a bomb and sacrificed his grandchild. YOUR FAULT. Also Torchwood. TORCHWOOD DID ALL OF THAT. YOUUUUUURRRR FAULT."
CChuuni
I mean "break" she's actually unbreakable as far as I can tell because she didn't break from that knowledge but
CChuuni
IT MAKES HER VERY VERY VERY UPSET
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/pats her
Wayward Haze
Rose, honey, a lot of thiings make you very very very upset
Wayward Haze
Richie is getting you a big bottle of chill pills for Christmas
CChuuni
I mean
CChuuni
can you blame her there though
CChuuni
Rose: /downs all at once
Wayward Haze
I mean - I lost my Jack muse because he broke so hard so clearly not
CChuuni
Wayward Haze
And this is from only having been spoiled about it and never having actually witnessed the pain firsthand, even
Wayward Haze
When Lore and I were first dating she IMed me like THAT'S IT, I QUIT TORCHWOOD and I was like whaaaaaaaaaat
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Yeah I don't even know the details but I know its brutal
CChuuni
Oh yeah I've seen it like
CChuuni
5 times
CChuuni
because I hate myself?
CChuuni
"draw the line somewhere" says CC and doesn't draw lines
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CC doesn't believe in lines which is strange since she likes canon to be one
Just Lore
I mean Who canon is so fluid. Both the Doctor and the Master have talked about being parents.
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that's true
Just Lore
Who canon is completely dependent on who is writing it
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I forgot the Master has a daughter
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12 and Missy should talk about that sometime
Just Lore
Yes!
Just Lore
But yeah I agree. If anyone is going to try to knock themselves up it would be the Master.
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I love that the Doctor's daughter has this whole hilarious RL context
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I have got to see one of Tennant's kids in Who
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it's family tradition at this point
Just Lore
Yessss
Just Lore
We need to make a list of all the things we want Twelve and Missy to do/talk about.
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yessss
Wayward Haze
yesyesyesyesssss 
Wayward Haze
/don't mind me I just stalk them. a lot.
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XDD
CChuuni
agreed on all of the above
CChuuni
but I like the doctor's parents even if his father is an asshole and part of 12's "ANTI-SOLDIER" thing Moffat was going for and then forgot in th emiddle of (as you do)
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oh yeah the Doctor has a brother (?) maybe depending on where you look and
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/wiggles hand
BruberryMuffin
And Susan. Musn't forget Susan.
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yes ofc
Wayward Haze
and maybe that brother was the Master? so glad they never actually did that reveal in Planet of Fire
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tho if she's related by blood is debatable
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No it's not the Master
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at least not the one I'm referring too
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I can't remember his name but
Wayward Haze
It almost was once though, and I'm like no
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No
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also man!
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they should bring the Rani back
Wayward Haze
YES
Wayward Haze
I remember when the trailer for Donna's season dropped and they only briefly showed the Matron and I was like OH PLEASE LET THAT BE THE RANI
Wayward Haze
and it wasn't, and it really should have been
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it should have been :<
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though I don't watch trailers XD
Wayward Haze
I used to a lot more than I do now
Wayward Haze
Now if it's something I'm really excited for I won't
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/nods!
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I don't for the same reason I don't read book blurbs
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I don't want to be told how to think about or approach the episode/book whatever
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I want to see how it stands up on its own if that makes sense
CChuuni
no, it's canonically NOT the Master, and 10 even told Martha and Jack they watched too much scifi/soap operas to think that
CChuuni
His brother is Irving Braxatiel in the audios
BruberryMuffin
Heee. I love Brax.
CChuuni
and it's very very very very VERY Sherlock Holmes with Mycroft
CChuuni
Me too
CChuuni
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CChuuni
and tbf I think the Doctor DOES have a younger sibling kind of persona about all [15] of him
CChuuni
although I think the wiki is overreading the comment of 13 "I had a sister once! I WAS a sister once!!!"
CChuuni
as she could literally be talking about being a sister of the order that taught her Venusian Akido etc.
CChuuni
but again 
doctor who canon = "is there canon tho"
doctor who canon = "is there canon tho"
papermint tiger
also people tend to forget that while i hate the phrase 'the Doctor always lies' and all the implications that has...the Doctor has never been afraid to exaggerate any claim they might make
papermint tiger
So who knows what that means really, i don't think it's meant to be taken seriously regardless xD
CChuuni
I HATE THAT TOO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
CChuuni
but yes same
CChuuni
like it's "don't take anything the Doctor says at face value tho"
CChuuni
but the fans tend to use it like
CChuuni
Hugh Laurie House style and I'm just "plz no"
papermint tiger
There is a difference between going 'yeah i totally had tea with Gengis Kahn, dude's a riot. Lots of people don't know that' and lying...i'm not sure what it is but it's there
papermint tiger
And plenty of fans seem to think that phrase gives them a pass to just ignore everything and insert their own truths into the canon and it's like no stop that
papermint tiger
There has to be a balance
CChuuni
yes
CChuuni
well he DID have tea with Gengis kahn
CChuuni
but I hate that Moffat kind of uses it as a "I can say whatever the fuck I want and free of consequences"
CChuuni
o_< but yes
CChuuni
and then like
CChuuni
still has weird things that aren't consistent
papermint tiger
Fuck i was even trying to pull something he hasn't done in canon lmao
papermint tiger
Tiddlywinks with the tsarina then 
CChuuni
CChuuni
tbf it's easy to miss because it's in the Marco Polo arc which is LOST
CChuuni
OH WAIT KUBLAI KAHN
CChuuni
forgive me I'm migrainey and pukey