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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:29 PM

It's total pandemonium in the balance server MNK channel ever since the patch notes went up

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:29 PM

nobody knows what the new opener is going to be

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:30 PM

anatman seems like it's at least sort of a GCD now

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:30 PM

is it still worth it to use in the opener?

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:30 PM

does it change when in the opener you do it?

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:30 PM

some major number crunching will be needed when 5.1 drops

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:31 PM

but everyone seems to agree that the opener is going to end up even more jank than before

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:32 PM

people talking about slidecasting Anatman which sounds like it basically requires the mod that shows you when server ticks are happening

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:32 PM

that's probably not important enough to worry about for a long ass time

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:34 PM

it sounds plausible to me at least that it might be better to go ST -> anatman -> demolish instead of ST -> demolish -> anatman

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:35 PM

since you can't transition straight from demo into anat anymore without a GCD

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:35 PM

NIN changes look massive

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:44 PM

I think our DPS loadout is MNK, DRG, BRD, BLM right now

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:44 PM

which is suboptimal because BLM counts as a soft melee in savage raid comp

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:44 PM

so we basically only have one ranged dps

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:45 PM

more to the immediate point, BLM can't dodge shit while attacking at range

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:46 PM

so things like the pure beam phase of Eden Savage are a DPS drop to basically zero if you're acting as a ranged dps as BLM

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:46 PM

I think we're mainly just running what people have

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:46 PM

I'm not running MNK because it's optimal for the comp I'm running MNK because it's fun and they found me

Ken

@mugennoken

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:48 PM

I’m pretty sure BLM is considered meta because the sheer level of its DPS stomps on literally every other Job in the game by a wide, wide margin.

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:49 PM

I understand the SHB overhaul was a MASSIVE buff for BLM

Ken

@mugennoken

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:50 PM

BLM has blown out every other Job since 5.0.

It’s not even that BLM got a big buff in 5.0, late 4.x it was really strong too, they’ve changed the least on it of any job in the game the last year or so.

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:51 PM

BLM is basically just a seige tank

Ken

@mugennoken

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:51 PM

It gets no changes because it doesn’t need it. ~~and it’s the job Yoshi-P plays~~ Plus with Triplecast, Aetherial Manipulation, and Between the Lines, mobility isn’t an issue with good ones

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:52 PM

find a place where you can hang out, then hang out there so hard that the world ends

Ken

@mugennoken

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:52 PM

It’s a tactical nuke

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:52 PM

we did have a moment while progging E3S this week where we gave up on a run and all just cliffed

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:52 PM

except for our BLM

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:52 PM

who was like I'M DYING IN MY LEY LINES THANK YOU

Ken

@mugennoken

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:53 PM

First week Eden Savage BLMs with 470 gear could be pulling like 16k DPS before even having a full set

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:53 PM

jesus

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:53 PM

I'm not fully kitted out and also a pretty low-tier raider at this point and I'm averaging around 11k

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:54 PM

but honestly like we're clearing E1S and E2S consistently in 1-2 attempts so even that much is clearly enough

Ken

@mugennoken

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:55 PM

That’s honestly not too bad. MNK and DRG are the next ones behind BLM, I think? And this was also a really high level long time player with a fair amount of Savage gear, just not the whole set.

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:55 PM

yeah I'm at ilvl... 460-462ish?

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:55 PM

I forget exactly

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@quinn2win

Fri, Oct 25, 2019 6:55 PM

maybe 463