xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:53 PM
[talking about the Saw franchise and everything that entails probably]
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:54 PM
I feel like it couldn't be that hard to find Jigsaw
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:54 PM
just ask around for anyone who's been bulk ordering casette players
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:55 PM
the stupid thing about Jigsaw isn't that his ideology is stupid, it's that anyone ever gives him the time of day about it
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:55 PM
I'm not a murderer. I just fired the gun and he chose not to get out of the way of the bullet
✶ 天才的なIDOL様！
@phainein
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:56 PM
officer jigsaw is the only valid interpretation of this character
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:56 PM
I'M THE MOST INTERESTING CHARACTER THE MCELROYS HAVE EVER CONCEIVED
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:57 PM
I like how by the fourth movie Jigsaw has revealed three distinct motives for his bone maze murder fetish
Rama
@Nerdorama
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:57 PM
I thought by the fourth movie he was dead and we were in the realm of multiple copycats
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:57 PM
he dies at the end of saw 3
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:58 PM
but it's about shit he set up before dying
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 9:58 PM
in 4
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:01 PM
I do appreciate the reveal of Jigsaw's first trap and how it's a janky piece of shit that just falls apart by mistake
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:05 PM
man how does someone as asinine as Jigsaw get so many apprentices
Rama
@Nerdorama
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:05 PM
Same way Ayn Rand does except he trims it down to the ones actually willing to kill people, I think
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:09 PM
urgh
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:09 PM
mostly I can handle these in wacky youtube summary form
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:09 PM
but tracheotomies give me the writhing jeebies every time
GalacticBattler
@Overbringer
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:14 PM
The concept of those movies gives me the screaming heebie jeebies just by itself
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:15 PM
the thing you don't get from trailers and cultural osmosis is that like
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:15 PM
they're also a zero escape style absurdly convoluted soap opera
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:16 PM
with every character revealing to be connected to every other character in flashbacks inside of other flashbacks
Rama
@Nerdorama
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:16 PM
(Zero Escape is like. Saw with the splatter elements minimized, really)
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:31 PM
Jigsaw is the world's worst therapist
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:33 PM
I feel like the already-dubious "I never kill anyone" logic breaks even more when your traps require someone to die in order for someone else to live
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:40 PM
man Hoffman sucks at being Jigsaw
BF
@blazingfool
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:40 PM
My fondest wish is a Saw movie starring Maccaulay Culkin
BF
@blazingfool
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:41 PM
Jigsaw meets his nemesis: the kid from Home Alone
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:41 PM
holy shit
Niamh Vibes
@nerdiethings
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:44 PM
holy FUCK
Rama
@Nerdorama
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 10:51 PM
Plot twist: Kevin and Jigsaw are the same person
miru!
@jisusushi
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:01 PM
I still want a third Adult Kevin video with Alex, so.
miru!
@jisusushi
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:03 PM
I mean, Alex would be the perfect foil to Kevin. He wasn't neglected by his family and his accomplishments were recognized by them and the local and national authorities, so considering Kevin's rant in the first one that that's how he turned out that way? Plus they lived in the same city and Alex wanted to be a cop when he grew up.
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:14 PM
honestly Jigsaw's ideology makes Kevin a great foil for him in theory
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:14 PM
because Kevin's traps make no allowance for a poetic justice escape route
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:14 PM
so they're an insult to Jigsaw's code of honor
Rama
@Nerdorama
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:22 PM
The escape route for Kevin's traps is "stop robbing my fucking house"
Rabbit Crimes
@AngelLeriel
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:24 PM
Yeah I was gonna say, there’s the added layer to the foil of Kevin explicitly building his traps as a self-defense mechanism
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:25 PM
that can be the climax focus
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:25 PM
that Kevin's traps are actually a purer version of Jigsaw's bullshit
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:25 PM
because someone who isn't committed to evil won't encounter them at all
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:25 PM
prevention VS punishment
Echo
@EchoDoctor
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:26 PM
Honestly, valid.
Echo
@EchoDoctor
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:27 PM
...That said, I misread the last bit of that toplevel as "entrails probably" and I was like 'yeah, knowing this series'.
xyzzy
@quinn2win
Tue, Sep 24, 2019 11:27 PM
those too
BF
@blazingfool
Wed, Sep 25, 2019 12:45 AM
The other matchup is Jigsaw vs Macguyver
BF
@blazingfool
Wed, Sep 25, 2019 12:46 AM
Can Jigsaw build a trap so devious that Macguyver can’t escape it
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