Okay, I’m all about throwing darts at Disney where warranted, but I am super tired about seeing the following thing: “Sony took Spider-Man back because Disney wanted 50% of the profits!”
I want to stress I don’t care about defending Marvel or Disney but that’s also objectively wrong and spreading it around muddies the conversation.
The report, as it read, was that Disney wanted a 50/50 split on co-financing, which would entail Disney spending a lot more than they currently do on the Spider-Man films. It would also probably give them more creative input, but they already had some of that. (Except Sony could do what they wanted ultimately.)
(This is why the first two movies have so much focus on Iron Man - Sony wanting to use him to leverage his popularity and draw people to the movie, not Marvel hammering it in.)
I see the opposite literally everywhere and I don’t blame folks who are saying it at this point because the incorrect information has already been spread fairly rapidly.
Again, I’m the first to fire torpedoes at Marvel and Disney where warranted, but -
Ultimately what we know of those new negotiations would’ve still been highly in Sony’s favor, but Sony clearly wants all the marketing buzz from having their movies tied to the MCU... without Marvel actually touching those movies in any significant way. They want all of the advantages and it just kinda stops there.
From everything I’ve heard, yeah. Obviously he had ties going back to Civil War, but it was ultimately Sony who really, really wanted to hammer that stuff in to leverage his popularity. After all they’re the ones who ultimately paid RDJ the ridiculous amount for his like five minutes in Homecoming.
Since the movies way more than make a profit, Sony’s been reaping benefits for this deal in a rather cushy manner, while paying peanuts back for it. It’s been a real good deal on their end.
i can admittedly see a take of like. keeping marvel at arms length because when they're very "give an inch, take a mile" when it comes to creative control and thats only gotten worse having become an official part of the Mouse Mafia
As of this point everything has been 100% in Sony’s favor while hardly having to do anything in return, and given some of the other projects on the horizon I could see Marvel being a bit. “Uh,”
i mean ultimately i'm gonna side eith sony because disney/marvel have been very aggressive at muscling through to complete control and disney as a whole is pretty much a monopoly in all but name
I mean Sony doesn't have the sheer economical weight of Disney regardless. I'm not saying Sony is an ethically better company but at least Sony isn't going around with a stranglehold on roughly 70% of the entertainment industry (especially the movie industry)
I don’t see that as necessarily being “well then one side is always in the wrong automatically.” I wasn’t even coming in here to put that down, I was just laying out the facts and some base speculation to reasoning.
I don’t even really think either side is right or wrong, it’s just Mega Corps jockeying for position, I do think it’s unfortunate for the fans of these particular things. (Which ain’t even really me; I think Holland is great, and I enjoyed HC/FFH a fair bit taken on their own, but we’ve never had the on-screen Spider-Man that I’d really want.)
I want to stress I don’t care about defending Marvel or Disney but that’s also objectively wrong and spreading it around muddies the conversation.
Again, I’m the first to fire torpedoes at Marvel and Disney where warranted, but -
Yes, I'm exaggerating, let me have this.