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[law stuff] Asking for a friend, is a law degree closer to a Masters or a PhD.
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... that friend is me and I'm trying to prove a point to my aunt who keeps bitching about how I'm not the first PhD in the family because she has a law degree and I'm trying not to punch her in the tit
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what
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idk how it is in the us but in NZ you can get a law degree as a bachelors
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then you study more and get a masters, then study more and get a phd???
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like on her piece of paper with the degree it should say what level of study it is?
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In the US you have to go to a law school
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You can major in pre-law
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And then you do the law school
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oh huh
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She has a JD, which is a Juris Doctor degree
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hopefully someone can answer because now I also want to know1
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!
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Which she says makes her a PhD
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how many years did she study? is that a good indication?
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And she keeps holding it over me and making me cry basically XD
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Not super, no. Different people go at different paces
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the tl;dr is that my aunt is a giant bitch and has to be better than everyone at everything, and it's really upsetting me that she's trying to devalue my achievements like this
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it's a JD, not a PhD, so even if it's equivalent, it's not the same thing
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And tbh just ignore her, because you know she's a giant bitch
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Yeah she's gone now praise jesus
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and arguing with her is giving her some kind of leg to stand on
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just say "Okay Susan" and let her believe whatever she wants.
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I didn't rise to it, but she just kept saying shit like "When I was getting my doctorate"
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Or "My god Mimi you're 32 I got my doctorate at 28" like, yay for you
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This is more for my own validation because I've been feeling really down lately
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I know I shouldn't let her get to me, but it's hurtful that she would -- even do that
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Like what kind of jealous cuntbag do you have to be to try and prove you're better than your niece, christ
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yeah that's pretty sad
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Next time she says it, say, "That's an insulting thing to say. Please stop."

It's not about the degree, it's about the interaction between you and the boundaries you have to set as an adult.
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It probably won't stop the problem, but at least you'll have outlined your boundary.
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I think defining your boundaries more clearly will help with the resulting anxiety, because you don't need validation for your life's work. You're enough.
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That's true. I should. I need to define my boundaries with her. The main problem with that is when I try, she gets defensive and -- shouty and so I just avoid confrontation by sitting and taking it.
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I'd definitely advise leaving the room, possibly with a statement of "I'm not engaging in this discussion while you're being confrontational." Definitely don't stay there. You aren't obligated to endure that.
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it's hard to remember you're an adult when confronted with someone who was an adult while you were a child, but you are one
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and deserve the commonplace respect owed to adults.
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That's so very true. And like it's not even about this. Everything is a fight. Everything is an argument. Everything is something she has to win. From -- what a JD is to what goes into a Sea Breeze
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It's exhausting and I just worry that if I leave the room every time she gets confrontational I'll get in trouble for it.
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I just never feel like an adult when I'm home because I don't get treated like one by -- anyone
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She can, I agree
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And I worked retail for four years between bachelor's and grad school, so. Thank you for boosting my confidence, it just sucks ass that she's this way. She always has been and as much as I try to let it slide off she always manages to get under my skin
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I would say a doctorate bc it's a JD but contrary to all my lawyer game posting ianal :-P
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Situation sucks tho
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"i got my doctorate at 28" is a truly bizarre flex
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because first of all it's not like it's something everyone needs to, wants to, or even should do... and second, as far as I'm aware, 6 years is pretty middle-of-the-road in many fields and it varies a lot between fields
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and yeah it varies tremendously with field, department, adviser, etc
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^ True facts!
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I think her most bizarre flex so far (this trip) was "I went on vacation to China with Lawrence Fishburn and it definitely wasn't Gina Torres with him, so I don't know why you're saying she's his wife"
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I got my PhD at 36... ...I also didn't start college until I was 23, and I finished a BA in English before I did a second in Physics, so, gasp, doing different things takes different amounts of time?????
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(they apparently divorced last year, which ngl I'm sad about)
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?????????????
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RIGHT?
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I mean she went on vacation to China. And Lawrence Fishburne was on the same... cruise? Tour group???
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...was she actually going on vacation with him or she went on vacation and he happened to be there
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The second one
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And I was like "omg isn't Gina Torres gorgeous"
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"Who?"
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and he happened to be within arm's reach of a woman she didn't know
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"H -- his wife?"
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"Well he was there with a redheaded white woman so Gina Torres is definitely not his wife"
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And then she googled it just to prove she was right
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..........I mean I don't like to speak ill of other people's family and/or people I don't know but, totally in a vacuum, this really sounds like someone reaching desperately for excuses to shit on other people... >_>
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"how can I make this about how I know everything and whoever I'm speaking to is an idiot"
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No, please speak ill of her. She's a bitch and does this shit at least five times a day
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Every conversation has to be a debate and she has to win it
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When mom was like "We're so proud of Mimi, first PhD in the family wow!" her kneejerk response was to say she technically has a doctorate too so I'm not really the first
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I mean I'm all for debating things and thinking about them rather than just googling them etc, it can be a fun way to engage
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Like bitch you are 68 years old you have to shit on me to feel better? I'm sorry your life is sa
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sad
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but not if you just go straight to "my first conjecture must be the truth and fuck you all for doubting me"
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No if you contradict her it's straight to google to prove she was right
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as someone who enjoys a good debate and likes being right, that sounds unbearable
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It is. Her husband is sort of the same way but to a lesser degree idk how they live
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...I wonder if she was always like that, or became that way from being around too many academics and lawyers.
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Little bit of both
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