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I'm arguing gender with people on the internet and I need to stop.
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Person: I keep my hens in the coop.

Me: WE'RE NOT FUCKING HENS.
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Another person: What's wrong with "it"?

Me: YOU CAN'T CALL A PERSON AN IT OH MY GOD.
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They also suggested "they" but "they" has never really been a gender neutral pronoun in Swedish as it is in English
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Just take the fucking gender neutral word people came up with a few years ago and be happy with it WHAT'S SO FUCKING HARD ABOUT THAT
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I would suggest they read about transsexual people's experiences with gender norms and being shoved into boxes but I expect they don't "believe in" transgender so what's the point really.
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Whyyy are people so closed-mindeeeeed.
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I'm happy you're comfortable in your assigned gender, Frank and Susan, but consider: It's not all about you.
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Someone asked about whether or not I suffered from being "forced to play with dolls" and I was like. I played with whatever the fuck I wanted and no one in my life said anything, but I never talked about my experience because this isn't about me.
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And I never tried to say it was about me.
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I just listen to other people from time to time and don't just assume everyone has lived like I've lived!!
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Imagine that.
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What a wild fucking thought, hey.
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I'm always amazed at how crows demonstrate a robust theory of mind but some humans still haven't figured out that different people have different experiences and motivations.
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Right??
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I had a mother that didn't care whatever we wanted to do, wear, etc. etc. so long as we weren't hurting ourselves or anyone else. If I'd been transgender I would probably have been fine.
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Not everyone is that lucky, as I have learned by listening to others, this absolutely incredible thing we can do with our ears and eyes.
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Wowie.
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Amazing
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but self-critiquing is hard and uncomfortable. :c
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it's so much easier to just believe whatever is most personally convenient :c
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God.
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People say that kids will just play with whatever they want, without considering that what they want might have been formed by outside influences over the years.
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But of course they think that criticising gender norms means implying that parents teach their kids that boys are better than girls and that it is just THE WORST for a boy to play with a doll, which isn't always how it goes down.
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(Although that happens on occasion as well.)
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That's probably where the issue lies. They don't want to understand the nuances. They don't want to thing that anyone has done anything that might be harmful in the long run.
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think*
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Oooor alternatively just don't think that gender norms ARE harmful at all.
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I think I've met both kinds of people over the last couple of days.
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ANYWAY I have sociolinguistics to read about
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i wish that americans had a gender neutral word, i think 'they' is only 'neutral' to us because our only alternative is 'it'
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People in Sweden got SO MAD when they came with a suggestion for an actual gender neutral word bc they were like AAAAAAAAA THERE ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS MAN AND WOMAN!!!1!!1!111
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Which
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1. Fuck you read up on some biology
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2. That's not even the only reason they decided to make a word for it
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3. Fuck you
papermint tiger
ugggh people
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Writing he/she is not only cutting people up strictly into those two groups, it also looks ugly as hell.
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Having a gender neutral word is so much better.
papermint tiger
agreed
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Swedish has han, hon and hen. Yes it is pronounced as the English word hen and Swedish people also love trying to use that argument for why the pronoun hen is stupid.
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Like Swedish isn't its own fucking language but ok, Susan.
papermint tiger
oooh i get it, that's why the person was talking about chickens
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why can't people just leave a good thing alone
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...I didn't even realise that.
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idk if they were actually being that "clever" but could be.
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who knows, yeah. Either way they're being dumb even if they were trying to be cute
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It just really frustrates me when people try to use metaphors or whatever to argue against something.
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Like the house built for hens has anything to do with gender norms.
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Like the very idea of houses for animals isn't also a human construct LMAO.
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At least the kind of houses we build them.
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That just made their argument even dumber.
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I'm a genius.
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