CChuuni
The Rocky Horror Picture Show "Sweet Transvestite"
Friend asked "movies that women just don't get" there were a lot of replies and I said I can't speak for all girls but I don't get Deathrace 2000, Fasttimes at Ridgemont High, Full Metal Jacket, and Armageddon
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Which is ironic because my Dad thought for sure there was no way I would get/like Rocky Horror Picture Show and since I always liked Mad Max he figured I'd love Deathrace 2000
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I did not
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But now I have promised to try to watch it again
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so Anyone who wants to torture themselves with "What if Trump was able to lock up the Senate and declare himself Caesar of the US and distract America with gory NASCAR" chime in
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not tonight
shinotenshi22
..............what's the definition of 'just don't get'? I'm confused?
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I mean chime in with when
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(Love Rocky Horror. Also didn't dislike FMJ, but not sure I"d watch again just b/c o my own issues)
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(drinking)
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but yes
CChuuni
I haven't met anyone who GOT Rocky Horror and didn't love it
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lmao
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hat makes it a "movies that women just don't get"?
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I'm confused by the premise of the question...
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Well the general picks people suggested were Bladerunner 2049 which was smacked down because a LOT of women were like "No we love this shhhhh shhh" Fight Club (ditto), Saving Private Ryan, To Kill a Mockingbird (me: WRITTEN BY A WOMAN?!?! -- but the guy was saying it's harder for women to understand intimately the fear of being railroaded for
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a rape they didn't do)
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..................................................okay, now I"m pissed off
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-_-
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(LOL)
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It's a purposely a sexist question
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I mean, I knew it was sexist
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but it's worse in its sexism than I even thoguht
CChuuni
I mean Master and Commander
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nah that was a reply not the question-asker
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Last Samurai (which I'll admit I don't get)
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like, I mean...I was pondering "okay, maybe it's more of a 'women and men are culturally acclimated/raised slightly differently from each other so maybe a women just won't get something' related to that...
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but -_-
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I want to see Last Samurai
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but that's b/c I"m a nutter for the era
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Attack of the Killer Clowns from Outerspace
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No it's a
"girls are girls and don't get why we love this movie"
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XDDDDDDDDD
shinotenshi22
..............yeah, no, definitely pissed off
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so pissed
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lmfao
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like, I'm glad i have no energy to act on my anger
CChuuni
Don't bother it's meant to be stupid like that
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nod
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I am so done with stupid -_-
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shinotenshi22
so. very. done
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AND LIKE I SAID
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I Literally do not get Deathrace 2000
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I also have met like a LOT of guys who LOVE IT to pieces
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and for the life of me I haven't the FOGGIEST idea why
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I haven't seen it, so can't commen.
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and I have NEVER met a woman who likes it
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er comment
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want to?
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not right now
CChuuni
DO YOU WANT TO WATCH THE WORST MOVIE IMO
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limited mental energy in general
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No not tonight (LOL)
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Like I was saying
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Oh you mean Troll 2?
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sure. Love tha tmovie ;-)
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hit me up with times
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No I've seen Troll 2
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there was even a documentary about how bad it was :-D
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it's worse
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chuckle
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that's impressive
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I Just
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Do
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Not
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maybe sometime
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Get
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it
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/patpats and hugs the CC
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(rofl)(lmao) My favorite answer
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Because this is asked by a gay man and his gay friends are replying mostly
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"Mean Girls. They claim they get it, but they do not. It belongs only to the gays."
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snort-snicker
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I am unfortunately reminded of one of themoments I did find funny in the Big Bang Theory
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Oh? XD
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(Amy is trying to make a scene, Penny coaching her, and then Raj just comes in and does it, and Penny's like "That's how you make a scene")
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(Amy was upset)
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(like, I can see now how 'toxic' it is b/c it was playing up the crazy-bitch stereotype slightly, and how Raj was acting like it...but...it's still kind of funny to me...)
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(just b/c of how it was acted and timing)
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(^^;;;-)
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(er no winky, sweatdrops)
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(Okay, I was remembering it wrong. and I def. see the bad aspects...still I can't help but laugh)
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XD
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anyways. I should back to bed
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probably /pet
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I need to poke you for RPchatter and plotting sometime soon CC
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hug
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/leans into pettings and purrs
CChuuni
You can make a "MOVIES GUYS DON'T GET PLURK" tomorrow if it makes you feel better
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so far all I came up with was horse movies
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Hidalgo :T Seabiscuit :T Charlies Angels
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:V
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laughs
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see I can't even 'think' that way?
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b/c I just don't work like that with my brain
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(LOL)
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I mean most chick flicks are going to lose "most" guys I would think
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but they also lose me
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so the only ones I can think of that I still am like "YES. THIS!!!" is ^ Horse movies (LOL)
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Me: /KYAAAAAA STARRY EYES/ My Dad, twin, husband: No -_-'
My Mom: :-) I'll see it with you CC
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I mean, I"m...yeah
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I don't get a 'chick flick' usually
CChuuni
RIGHT? like god I HATED Cold Mountain the book
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I think the closest to one I can think of off the top of my head is Kate And Leopold?
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I wasn't even into Titanic the movie
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and that's more Rom Com
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:-o
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I DO get Rom Coms
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ME TOO
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(drinking)
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That's the ONLY romcom I like
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that and 2 weeks notice
shinotenshi22
I LOVED Kate and Leopold, holes aside
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I also like NEver Been Kissed
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IT IS JUST SO CUTE
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I liked that too /nod
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and Blast from the Past
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I will watch anything with Brendan Fraser (almost)
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like, Titanic is the 'closest' I can think of to a 'chick flick' and even then I was less invested in teh romance in some ways, even at 14
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(have you seen Monkeybone?)
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ofc ;-)
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(Brenden Fraser is amazing yes.)
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(drinking) I miss him :T
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(excellent. :-D )
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I do too
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/petitions to drag him back
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George of the Jungle is still one of my favs. with him b/c he's SO ADORABLE
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so so adorable
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also the Mummy movies :-D
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^ I was just going to say "George of the Jungle is actually a really example of filming for a female audience though"
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and yuuuus
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See? I just...how?
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I mean the most I coul dthink of is the stereotypical one where he's playing with the horses and the girls are all admiring, and the guys are all "wow, women just love horses right?" -_-
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which bothered me even then
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So okay when men poise themselves naked; it's still
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lmfao that but also the dorky scenes of
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him naked juggling
shinotenshi22
Oh god he was so adorkable and just...so cute!
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I loved it!
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he is always being cute and endearing
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SEEEEEEEEE THAT
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nodnodnod
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but also it was amazing to watch acting wise
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for the physical aspects and pantomine-related stuf
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Which is not a male power fantasy at all because they don't generally WANT to be seen as moe (LOL) it's out of programming
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snort
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see I don't really 'get' Moe
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and Jane in it is
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but like...George was both "Moe" AND badass
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Moe is cute in a way that makes you feel protective of them
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why can't they be 'both?' it's sexier to be both.
CChuuni
yes but
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for geared to women they do a lot of both yes and moe isn't always sexual, it's often not
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so very young children/small animals etc.
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(Oh I know Moe isn't always sexy. :-D )
CChuuni
cute tiny elderly
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XD
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(I'm very aware. I was just saying)
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bah.
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I was raised with Princess Leia as my role model
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and wrt Jane: she's completely dominantly powerful economically, educationally, etc.
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I'mma be trying to save myself even while the boys are coming to my rescue
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(drinking) as all women should be
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best example? right before they go down the garbage chute
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Boys can't shoot. She takes the gun and shoots. :-D
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(My mom and Gram were both very independent strong willed women too so...um... ^^;;; )
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(>>
<<
>> I come by it very honestly.)
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alright, now I really am toddling of to bed
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Night CC
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poke ya later
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/huggles
CChuuni
I had no one to rescue me and my Dad tried to teach me how to fight back and I didn't want to, but both my parents raised me to be protective ESPECIALLY of my siblings so basically the one thing that always pushes me into a fight is Moosey getting hurt then I kick all the things (including my parents as needed oops)
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o/
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I MEAN MY DAD RESCUED ME BUT (LOL)
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nodnod Mom knew that she couldn't always be there to rescue or help me. so she made sure I knew how to do so myself as well
CChuuni
Yeah I didn't really even play Tiger Lily to Peter Pan. I was like (thinking)
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didn't mean she WOULD NOT help or rescue me
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yeah exactly my Mom is like Nowi to my Nah (Fire Emblem)
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so
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but it meant I was taught how to get myself out of trouble too.
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(I'm not an FE person)
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Basically
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she's very childlike and I was a lot like Mathilda: bookish, serious, smart, but
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(Mom's view of being a parent, is that it is her job to protect the child. And part of that job means teaching them how to survive on their own and navigate the world.)
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opposite my Mom
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My Mom has ADHD
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I'm sorry
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NAHHHHHHHHHh
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fwiw, I didn't really grow up with Dad so ^^
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I love my Mom (LOL)
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but like, when I was a baby...Mom would've LOVED to have held me all the time, not let others hold me, etc
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she's a lot like my husband
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but she knew that wouldn't be good for me
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which gives me moments of "wtf self wtf"
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so when others would be like Awww so cute, she'd ask "do you want to hold her?" while making sure it's safe..
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but so that I got used to things
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lol I was super shy even as a baby and I was like "NOOOOO" and would hide from strangers
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just that's one fo teh examples she told me
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Oh Iw as def clingy
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and they used to lose me
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not clingy
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just
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shy
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(LOL)
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like I said they lost me a lot
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but it's like...that is her view. of "how do I do what is best so Lin will survive and be protected"
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esp. if I could find an animal/hiding place
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XDDD cute
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"Even if it is not what I would prefer..."
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My mom is a badass and amazing. We have our issues (who doesn't) but I love her so much
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okay. now. Bed. Me
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laters CC
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TL;DR most movies aren't made with genders in mind!
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stop being so fun to chat with!
never stop
CChuuni
Some are and it doesn't change them from being loved by both
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And whatever the fuck is with Dream Girls and how that is the favorite movie among so many gay men I d e
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conversely I know way more conservative Christians who ADORE the Birdcage. So. There's that
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but ^ those 4 are the movies I do not get in such a way that I think it is genuinely part of my gender that is impeding it.
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wrt: Full Metal Jacket, I found it too heavy-handed propaganda about how terrible the Vietnam war, the military, and dehumanizing both are. 8| TO MY AMUSEMENT apparently a lot of the guys like it because it's so extreme??? Kyle could tell you better (it's one of his faves)
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vs. say Stripes. I fucking LOVE Stripes. And MASH. And some other dumbass army movies etc.
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Fasttimes at Ridgemont High is like... if Grease ramped up ONLY the sex and gross parts, took out the songs and made it very 80s. The only part I found remotely amusing was the mooning. I do not GET the ENTIRE fast food stuff and again, I think it's because I'm a girl tbfh.
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Armageddon prooooooooooooooobably not because I'm a girl, because my Dad and I were both like "DEEP IMPACT WAS BETTER STUPID MICHAEL BAY" (and Kyle!) and my mom thought Armageddon was super emotionally touching??? buuuuut moooostly I've known more guys to like it??? /SHRUG
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And then Deathrace 2000 I said I overthink it. A fan of it insists it cannot be overthought because you are meant to ask the questions I did but they do not have answers and that bothers me o_o
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so again. If anyone wants to join me in this self-torture
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I fucking guarantee it can't be as bad as Jessica Jones season 2
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because it didn't take itself seriously enough for that at all
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(LOL) It KNEW it was trash at least
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same with Trolls 2
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And like
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Sharknado doesn't act like it knows it's trash
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but it knows WHAT it is. Action drivel silly fun. It doesn't try to be War and Peace or Lolita.
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Jessica Jones season 2 is a god damn mess.
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By all women for women and resulting in not being good for anyone tbfh it's just awful. awful
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OH and re: Bladerunner 2049, so while I would not call it a movie for women, it DOES have a LOT of scenery porn -> scenery porn IS a more women thing. THOUGH it is also a common thing in the better James Bonds so psssh
CChuuni
^ But that also goes back to "male gaze" which is not "whatever is a woman being sexually on display" but rather a specific film term for zooming in unrealistically (ie: specifically beyond what the human eye alone can do without cameras) and forcing the viewer to VIEW/gaze women's/actresses bodies as through the eyes of a man without the pull back to allow
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for full freedom of the scene
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(blah blah I've talked about this a TON before)
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-> scenery porn is all about having so much to take in you aren't solely focused on the action and indeed, aren't zoomed in to just sexual whatever etc.
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So while not inherently female-geared
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male gaze DOES go specifically opposite
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see also: Fasttimes at Ridgemont High
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also
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if I come out of Deathrace 2000 all "fucking hell, Trump is President and my Dad was right about everything" I WILL cry. I hate when he's right about stupid shit like this.
Artemis
okay the gory NASCAR thing sounds amusingly bad to me. if you stream it sometime that isn't like 4 am for me count me in
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i mean i can kind of see the premise of the question but I'd think of it in an unflattering way.like if you make some 'us poor men we are so oppressed by evil women' movie and it doesn't have any cool action women can have fun with anyway most women would probably just roll their eyes at it. but then them not getting it is a bad movie thing not a women thing
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i liked Armageddon back in the days btw that was my big action movie phase
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Oh I will (evilsmirk)
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annnnnnnnnnnnd no it's not that (LOL) it's more of a "Women don't get the awesomeness and MOVING MANLY FEELS of FullMetal Jacket" which yeah I don't
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The part where they're all like "I GOTTA TOUCH MY JUNK TO MAKE SURE I NEVER LOSE MY GUN" I was just /HEADTILT
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