duck bastard
[far shore] > Hakkai: I haven't had enough alcohol to be drunk in a long time
> Chikusa: So you've made all these life choices while sober? Christ.
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
Hakkai's one of those people who doesn't seem to get drunk but it's mostly because there's no change in his decision making
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
"Would Hakkai really make this dangerous and upsetting decision sober??" "idk probably"
TurtleTrash_Fru
LOL at both of these
Alice
Ayu would be like "wait what" at that lmao
Kira🌵
I mean, he has achieved "tipsy," but
Kira🌵
This is why he was trying so hard to slow you down, Ayu, humans will get alcohol poisoning trying to keep up with his drinking
duck bastard
He really wants to ask Ayumu about this because he's so confused
duck bastard
HE SAW THE GLASSES AND SMELLED THE ALCOHOL....
Kira🌵
YEAH like i mean besides the fact that his greatest motivation when drunk is "look sober, behave normally" and the fact that he makes all kinds of dangerous and upsetting decisions stone cold sober as well
Kira🌵
there's also his superhuman alcohol tolerance...
duck bastard
lmao yeah, chikusa has just. never met a person who makes so many bad life choices so immediately after the other while drunk
duck bastard
so he was like "ok rough time with ayumu, she almost broke his nose, but they're apparently a little better- wait why are they sleeping together"
Kira🌵
Really, Chikusa, alcohol isn't the problem here. The problem is that when you push Hakkai far enough, rather than lying face-down on the floor for several months, he just starts making worse and more drastic decisions
Kira🌵
The more emotional strain he's under, the worse his decisions get.
Alice
I'm just seeing Ayumu going about her business, she sees a text from Chikusa asking about all of this and she just... immediately goes off to hide in the hot spring
Kira🌵
Which, I mean, he knows about himself, it's just no one is here for him to turn over decisionmaking authority to
duck bastard
LMAO AYUMU NO!! HE NEEDS ANSWERS!!!!
duck bastard
chikusa would normally never prefer such a role because hakkai isn't axel and also he thought hakkai had it more together than him, a feral shitteen
duck bastard
he's starting to realize that second part is SUPER INCORRECT
Alice
at this rate, she's just going to run off to some tiny hotspring town in the mountains or something
duck bastard
ayumu he will get ken to track you down, he swears to god
Alice
he finds her at some cabin in the middle of the woods or some mountain shack lol
Alice
tells Sanzang she just needs a weekend vacation
Alice
she's too sober to deal with any of this
Kira🌵
Hakkai is capable of having it together. Sometimes. It's just that when he doesn't have things together they are really not together.
Kira🌵
That is the point at which he badly needs guidance, even from feral shitteens
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
Turn decision making authority over to Goku, Hakkai
duck bastard
that... might?? happen at the dinner?
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
You can't make things much worse while you're feeding him 24/7 after all
Kira🌵
Goku, no matter how much decisionmaking he has to delegate to others, the kitchen belongs to him. Nice try.
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
Yes, the kitchen belongs to Hakkai and Hakkai belongs in the kitchen. Making meat buns. For Goku.
Alice
tbh, I think Ayu would eventually step in for an intervention, especially if everything else crashed and burned
Alice
if she hears that Gojyo asked to be released and was refused, that's not going to go over well with her ;;
Kira🌵
Honestly, Hakkai's not saying "not ever," here, he's saying "in the heat of a fight you started and escalated in the middle of dinner less than two hours after regaining consciousness, this isn't a request I'm going to take seriously."
Kira🌵
... not that he's, you know, making that clear, but
Alice
she'd likely ask him about it if Gojyo told her, I think
Alice
if he ever meant it seriously, she'd ask him to name her and release him and probably try to relieve Chikusa a bit since she does feel somewhat responsible for putting him the position he's in there (it's Ayumu, of course, she'd feel responsible)
Kira🌵
... ayumu, this is not in any way about hakkai feeling a need for more shinki and he'd be legitimately horrified by that suggestion
Alice
I figured (LOL)
Kira🌵
but yeah, honestly, depending on how this thread goes he's very likely to go talk to Gojyo about that naming/releasing question afterwards without the kids around to add conflict
Kira🌵
it's just that he's not going to help Gojyo try to be all fucking dramatic about "I am not a PART of this family"
Kira🌵
you've been here for less than 24 hours you are a dinner guest sit the fuck down
Alice
that makes sense!
Alice
some of the emotional aspects of the situation just go over her head a bit yet she keeps hearing about it from Chikusa lol and I imagine whatever Gojyo says at the bar
Kira🌵
issues, Ayumu, lots and lots of issues
Kira🌵
even Hakkai doesn't fully understand them
Alice
on one hand, she wants to understand this shitshow but on the other, she doesn't want to get involved because why would she
Alice
also she doesn't want to give her honest opinion unless asked for it because she doubts either Hakkai or Gojyo would appreciate her particular brand of harsh realism on their relationship
Alice
(that and she doesn't know anything about what they were like before this became an out of control dumpster fire)
Kira🌵
she's on team "stop projecting your dead relationship with a dead man onto his ghost," isn't she? I seem to remember you mentioning that...
Alice
She is but it goes further than just that with her. She thinks their personalities are a bad match, their relationship is toxic, and they have no future. She also doubts there's any genuine love between them and it's not just lust and obsession.
Alice
and I suspect that even if she had full context, including the reincarnation aspect, she'd have an even more negative and critical take
Alice
so there's the "love yourself and let it go" aspect and more mundane aspects? she also sees them as wanting different things (which adds to her opinion that they wouldn't have a happy future)
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
Goku swears they're normally way more functional than this....
Alice
she'll believe it when she sees it lolsob
Alice
though honestly, she still might doubt that they were that functional before and there weren't deeper issues and cracks that just hadn't come to the surface yet
Kira🌵
ha, honestly, they were exactly this functional for the first, like, year they lived together
Alice
(for the record, I like them as a ship! Ayumu just.. is not a fan)
Kira🌵
hakkai wasn't communicating, gojyo was freaking out and trying to push him away, hakkai came real close to packing his bags and disappearing into the night
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
so what you're saying is that Asshole needs to bring them together by getting Gojyo taken hostage by gangsters and leaving him for dead
Kira🌵
... well
Kira🌵
i mean
Kira🌵
it worked the first time
Kira🌵
(but no honestly the thing that really makes a difference is for them to get to the point where gojyo recognizes that hakkai's not going to suddenly realize he can do better and walk away, and hakkai recognizes that gojyo's not pushing him away because he doesn't like him)
Alice
(honestly, that'd just make Ayu wonder why the issue hasn't been fixed when they've known each other so long with full context and that it hasn't been as a sign that they're unsuited for each other)
Kira🌵
(gojyo's self-hatred and hakkai's rejection issues are both very, very deep-rooted, unfortunately, ayu)
Alice
(at least, she's able to keep her opinions to herself and just leave them to decide if it's worth it for themselves sob)
Alice
(she's way too pragmatic and cynical to appreciate it. she might be more approving if she'd had more opportunities for genuine bonds growing up but alas)
Kira🌵
pft. the funny thing is, if she'd actually talked to hakkai about it, he might rant about the "lust and obsession" thing a little, because this has been really rubbing him the wrong way with gojyo, too. he wants the trust between them back! he wants to be able to rely on gojyo to check him when he's stupid, and vice versa.
Alice
she might bring it up if they wind up talking about their feelings when they meet up to chat haha
Kira🌵
he wants to be able to talk to gojyo about things that mean a lot to him without being afraid of how gojyo's going to use them against him later....
Kira🌵
basically, what's really killing Hakkai here is that he wants their friendship back.
Alice
that's another thing that concerns her about them - that Gojyo's quick to use info Hakkai tells him to hurt him
Alice
she honestly sees Gojyo as pretty abusive toward Hakkai and that raises her hackles ;;
Kira🌵
And he hates that Gojyo keeps making it so much about sex, because while he would be okay with friendship + sex, if one half of that equation has to go, no sex is fine, no friendship is unbearable.
Alice
I mean, she genuinely likes Gojyo! she doesn't like how he treats Hakkai though
Alice
and I think after learning how sensitive Hakkai is, she's going to be side-eyeing that kind of behavior pretty hard ;;
ꜱᴜᴘᴇʀ ᴏᴏᴢᴀʀᴜ
punch him, ayu-chan
Kira🌵
Ha! Yeah, Hakkai's not the biggest fan of that either. He's not holding it against Gojyo because he basically sees it as Gojyo's self-hatred metastasizing onto everyone Gojyo associates with his past, but if, you know, somebody wanted to punch Gojyo until he quit being stupid like that, he has no objections
Alice
meanwhile, Ayu wouldn't care why he was doing it, she's flat out say it was inexcusable behavior and he needed to learn some self-control
Alice
she's too much of a hardass about that kind of thing to give him much quarter tbh
Alice
she's dealing with a lot of stuff, too, and while she did snap and try to break Hakkai's nose, it was also an extreme circumstance and it'd been building up for a while. plus she apologized and hasn't done it since haha
Alice
and she has no intention to repeating the behavior because she learned!
Alice
...she very well might go off on Gojyo one of these days
Alice
especially since after seeing a much softer, vulnerable side of Hakkai, she'll naturally feel more protective than she used to
Alice
it depends on how much he pushes his luck though
Calliente
I feel like Ken and Gojyo might have a cathartic fight at some point
Kira🌵
Like, in the next ten tags, possibly
Kira🌵
(gojyo does find fighting to be strangely cathartic, which unfortunately is one of the ways in which he and hakkai are not alike. hakkai only wants to fight people he wants to kill)
Calliente
Ken, meanwhile, has learned how to communicate with people who are fighty disasters
Calliente
/looks at Hibari
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