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[iron fist] as I said elsewhere: My tertiary question about the show, beyond the obvious ones, is "...wait, doesn't a show about a missing billionaire who comes back from being missing to fight crime already exist? Isn't it ALREADY the most boring tv show on netflix and tv?"
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Is this Arrow or
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say what you will about arrow, at least Stephen Amell doesn't blame his show's boringness on donald trump
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Stephen Amell's reaction to Iron Fist: "I literally could not care less about Iron Fist."
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Okay X3 I tried to watch Arrow, couldn't get past like S1E4, and despaired when I briefly thought it was going to be part of Supergirl's universe
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I mean, they're in different universes, but they show-wise they're all in the same...universe.
Alicia
I admit my knowledge of the Defenders is limited, but even in the comics, Iron Fist is kinda boring
resisting li
SORT of. They're alternate universes! Barring WAAAY more time travel shenanigans I'm safe
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Though to be fair, Ollie was way more interesting when interacting with Kara lol
Alicia
all the good Arrow writers left for the Flash, and for a while, it showed
Alicia
though Season 5 is a vast improvement
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it is. I enjoy Dinah, for instance
Alicia
and now they even have their own Punisher!
Alicia
lol
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do the...oh right, wild cat or...wild...dog or...Hockey Mask Guy
Alicia
but from when I was reading Ultimate Spider-Man, he crossed over with them a few times, and Iron Fist was really the background-iest of background characters
BruberryMuffin
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resisting li
I don't hate him in the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon but a.) he's part of a large ensemble cast, b.) he feels sort of like a joke at the expense of white hippies, c.) the one ep where they gave his
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backstory and I had to watch everyone call him the chosen one was still insufferable.
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Iron fist is not the guy you give his own show
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Iron Fist is the guy you let have an episode of a show once a season
Alicia
he's basically the Team Mom, from what I gathered
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you don't give Xander a tv show
resisting li
Sadly people do all the time.
resisting li
But I understand the point.
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which is why now we are getting a prequel spinoff of big bang theory about sheldon
Alicia
yeah he could've just as easily been a supporting character in one of the other Netflix shows
Alicia
because $$$$
resisting li
I get it though, like, from the perspective of wanting to build up all of the characters to make a Heroes for Hire show
BruberryMuffin
Probably because they know Big Bang Theory is going to go away sooner or later and they're cashing in on the one character people will stay for.
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yeah, but the actor won't be the same
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it's about when he was 10
BruberryMuffin
Ooooh.
Alicia
yup we've never had a show about a quirky nerd kid before
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resisting li : which to me makes me feel like they're trying to do too much
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And I maintain that a show with a Chinese-American Danny who has to reconnect with the culture he's lost through necessary American assimilation would have been cool.
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that? would've been amazing.
Alicia
or hell, even half or something
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I think someone even mention that to Finn jones directly
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and i believe he flipped his ass
resisting li
Yep.
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Well he does seem like he's prone to childish temper tantrums
Alicia
I mean, it's technically not whitewashing because the comics character is a white guy, but still...
resisting li
So I'm not surprised
Alicia
if you can't take criticism, acting is probably not the business for you
resisting li
Right but the original comics are themselves racist. An adaptation of a racist property doesn't get less racist X3
Alicia
yeah, like how they changed The Mandarin for IM3
resisting li
Marvel had an opportunity to tell a story that would have really resonated with not just specifically Chinese-American audiences but all hyphenated American groups. Everyone who has ever struggled
resisting li
with code switching, feeling torn apart in that way. But I mean a story about another white billionaire who's better than everyone else without trying because he's Special, that's cool too.
resisting li
(The smallest caveat: with the way they fumbled Luke Cage and BLM, they probably would have also fucked this up. But at least they'd have tried something.)
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I'd rather they try than not try, tbh
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rather than have finn jones puke all over the net about how mch diversity his show "has"
resisting li
100% agreed
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he claims also that the show is made "for the fans, not critics", but uh...
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most of the critics liked the other shows, didn't they?
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and also I hate that 'made for fans not critics' shit
resisting li
Luke Cage, Black Conservative โ€“ The Ringer <-- a good read for some of the objections people have been making to LC
resisting li
Yeah that's been the desperate defense of recent DC movies; Marvel's stuff has largely done well on both fronts.
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y, DC does better with tv shows at least. Well, beyond zzzarrow
resisting li
<3
Alicia
DC animation wins hands down
resisting li
For me personally and the $0 my opinion on this is worth, I think if LC hadn't fallen down so aggressively on the police brutality and racism, Cage's own conservatism might sit better as being the
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Alicia : If only because they're bringing back constantine for me lol
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true expression of the show runner's own politics; authentic to his experience if not everyone else's. But the combination is just..... really respectability-politics-y.
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y, that's what it seems like
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i need to catch up on marvel tv shows
resisting li
Frankly in a lot of ways it's a really hard time to try to give us the Some Good Cops narrative. Which is why JJ's cop character worked so well for me l-lol
resisting li
and obviously this isn't about Misty herself, but when I think about watching DD S2 and the likelihood of running into minor character cops who are just ~presumed good~ I get actively twitchy
resisting li
Oh man I hope I didn't spoil JJ for you there D: I was assuming you had seen it and LC
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no worries, bb, I don't mind spoilers!
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(cozy) sob
GW Wolf
Iron Fist, better written, should have been part of Luke Cage, season 2. not his own show.
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