What if our characters met at a different point in their timeline?
Ryl
What if our characters met at a different point in their timeline?
What if our characters met at a different point in their timeline?
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
hello there
Ryl
o/
Ryl
Jaq
: I... don't play Loki...
Jaq
Excuse me I completely mistook your name for someone else's
Jaq
Your usernames are almost identical
Ryl
completely understandable!
Jaq
[shakes fist at star wars]
Ryl
but it's awesome!
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
imagine Jason and Dick being raised by Bruce at the same time tho
Ryl
I love the idea
Ryl
if Bruce is Dad, does that make Alfred Mom?
Jay
well, possibly killing Kevin's mom? (Or Kevin, depending. Or getting killed.) Probably still finding him an annoying little shit 
Ryl
if he killed Kevin's mom, he'd get himself a fanboy/puppy
Ryl
well... duckling might be more apt
Ryl
angry, skittish duckling
Jay
lol
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
Alfred is mom and uncle
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
the death and return would cut so much deeper
Ryl
yeeeah but the sibling rivalry would be so much worse
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
YEP
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
it would be bad
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
they'd be family, but kinda fucked up family
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
dick's all like WHY, WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS, but he's not an angel about it, either
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
young and full of feelings and insecurities and emotional needs not being mey
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
met*
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
they were totally both jerks
Ryl
and neither really had someone to teach them better
Ryl
at least Dick had his parents....
Ryl
Jason's probably so confused bc there's no way Bruce wouldn't be going "but Dick doesn't do that" and he doesn't get why he's being compared to Dick
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
like. they would totally rescue and protect each other, and there is trust in the field
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
they leave each other to fight their own battles if it's a schoolyard thing, but against supervillains, they have each other's back 100%
Ryl
yep
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
there's kind of a "no one punches him in the face but me" thing
Ryl
I can even see them getting on each other in schoolyard things
Ryl
precisely!
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
And dick grows out of being a jerk way faster
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
well, grows into less of a jerk
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
still bickers
Ryl
well, DIick's had better role models than Jason
Ryl
bc Jason pretty much raised himself before Bruce
Ryl
He's gotta play catch up
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
And dick could have been a better role model
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
if he hadn't been, you know, a kid dealing with being a brother for the first time and raised by the least reassuring man ever
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
THEY HAVE MOMENTS OF ACTUAL FEELINGS. THERE ARE MOMENTS WHERE THEY BOND AND ARE KIND OF HAPPY AND FEEL LIKE FAMILY
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
But those moments, I feel, are few and never happen when Bruce is around
Ryl
/sigh
Ryl
sound about right....
Ryl
bc the world would end if the Batclan figured out normal, healthy family stuff...
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
bruce ruins it by being a point of competition ;;
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
if it's just the two of them being heroes together, sometimes it feels pretty good
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
and then, of course, there's the fact that they understand each other in a way literally no one else could
Ryl
Jason: Not cool, Bruce! /punches Bruce in the face
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
they were made the same way
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
out of different materials, but shaped by the same influences
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
AND THEN JASON DIES
Ryl
HE DIDN'T DIE, HE WAS MURDERED!
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
EVEN MORE UPSETTING
Ryl
seriously, is there somewhere you want me to toss my Jason at your Dick?
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
yes
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
yes pls
Ryl
where?
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
I don't know how down you'd be for the Lethevale test drive
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
since it's AU
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
but if you wanna meme, I will 100% put up an open post
Ryl
I... actually was drooling over it
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
BRO
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
TAG ME
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
I'VE BEEN HOPING YOU WOULD
Ryl
trying to decide what the AU should be....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
is it predeath or postdeath, is the biggest question to me
Ryl
care to help me brain?
Ryl
hmm.....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
also....do you want to have them raied together in this setting
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
I am 100% down either way
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
*raised
Ryl
if it's predeath, that could explain a lot about Jason's Red Hood persona....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
dick can either be lord wayne's first ward and jason the second, or they can both be orphans picked up within a few years of each other
Ryl
I like that second idea
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
(dude, if you apped into the game, I would 100% recommend apping predeath!jason)
Ryl
you decided where Lord Wayne's from?
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
(and then letting the death/resurrection happen in-game)
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
(because how fun would that be to play out)
Ryl
(if I went postdeath, I'd have to use Arkham!Jason anyway bc that's the only way it'd fit in the rules)
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
and not really -- I'd say either London or Liverpool
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
He could have been from America, but I like him being from an olllld city
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
old and dirty
Ryl
hmm.... London with a town house in Liverpool.....
Ryl
Jason's probably from Liverpool
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
full of corruption and child labor
Ryl
and kids that ran away from the workhouse....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
yup c:
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
dick's backstory is pretty much exactly the same
Ryl
Jason's totally the Artful Dodger....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
traveling circus, refused to pay protection money, murdered parents
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
and he IS
Ryl
how old is your Dick here?
Ryl
ugh... if I do this, I'mma need to make a new Jason account....
Ryl
a younger one
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
haha, his age is negotiable
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
No younger than 17, I think
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
but no older than 22
Ryl
so Jason would probably be between 14 and 16
Ryl
and... I'm not sure Dark Angel-era Jensen Ackles can pass for that young....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
pffffffff
Ryl
well, Dylan Everett does pull a young JA well enough
Ryl
Xd
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
I've been trying to decide whether Bruce sent Dick/Dick and Jason to investigate Lethevale
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
or if this is set after a falling out and Dick is investigating on his own
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
I am, again, totally happy with either option
Ryl
or is it some kind of vacation?
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
That could work -- "both of you get out of london for a while"
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
"quit breathing so much smoke"
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
.......but I'd put money on the fact that Bruce knows weird shit's happening there and expects them both to get to the bottom of it, even if he's not saying so
Ryl
"Jason, you need to calm down. Dick, make sure your brother doesn't get too out of hand."
Ryl
yeah, kill two birds with one stone
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
"what, I'm stuck with babysitting duty??"
Ryl
"I don't need a nanny!"
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
"if that were true, I wouldn't be stuck DOING this!"
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
also if you're running into icon issues, I don't mind fudging timelines so Jason's older
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
100% up to you
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
age in comics is a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey thing anyway
Ryl
eh, I have a PB I can use for younger Jay
Ryl
I just have to figure out a username
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
oh oh I had a thought
Ryl
yeah?
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
so I figure they all do kind of go out and patrol the streets at night
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
in masks
Ryl
yep
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
it's probably less public than in canon
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
less public attention
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
but what if dick = robin and jason = hood
Ryl
/starts humming Victorian Vigilante
Ryl
/nodnod
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
b/c robin hood
Ryl
OH!
Ryl
I LIKE!!!!!!!
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
8D
Ryl
Victorian Vigilante by Abney Park
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
omg of course it's by abney park
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
I hadn't heard it, going to listen asap
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
....100% accurate
Ryl
especially for Jason....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
especially yup
Ryl
ugh!
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
jaaaaason that kills people!!
Ryl
need some kind of good plays on invalid or wrong.....
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
Ryl
lol!
Ryl
oh!
Ryl
expiredusername
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
OMG
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
OH MY GOD I'M LAUGHING
Ryl
to go with his brother
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
i can't stop giggling that's AWFUL AND I LOVE IT
Ryl
same!!!!
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
ohhh my god
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
perfect.
Ryl
Icons
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
OH NO HE'S SO SURLY AND SO TINY
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
OH NOOOOO
𓄤𓆑𓂋𓅱𓏭𓄖𓎡𓏭
WHAT A CUTE
Ryl
and older Jason is Jensen Ackles