Princess Emily
[trans] EDIT: just saw a FAKE news story about Texas denying trans people the right to use any restroom in public, and totes fell for it
Princess Emily
just when you think people can't get any worse
Princess Emily
they go and break that shit-barrier
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
WELL IT'S TIME TO GO PISS ON SOMEONE'S DOOR THEN
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
what state is it
Princess Emily
Texas
Princess Emily
to the surprise of approximately half a person
Rama
I want to go set Greg Abbot on fire.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
accidentally scrolled down too far and saw the comment section, whoops
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
... oh it might not be real
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
i just checked
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
krbc is apparently known for posting fake stories to trash on trans issues
inadequate tits
oh god i saw the one for that alabama town and now all of texas wants to do it to??
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
oh wait no definitely
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
info about that site
Rama
Well even if it is fake, Abbot still needs to be set aflame in general.
Princess Emily
another state to add to my growing list of places to never visit
Princess Emily
oh, wait, IS it fake?
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
confirmed fake
MOVED
it' fake
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
that site posts fake news about that sort of thing
Princess Emily
woooooo okay
Striving Spark
But incrediby sad how believable it is 
Princess Emily
why the fuck would somebody post a fucking story like that?
Rama
Brcause they're assholes
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah, basically.
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
that appears to be their MO
MOVED
apparently a bathroom bill might come up in a legislative session in 2017, but it'd probably be like North Carolina's
MOVED
source
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
posting fake stories about trans issues to piss people off. angry conservative clickbait.
Princess Emily
which is still shitty enough to add the state to my never-going-to list
MOVED
it is!
MOVED
I mean let's be real, Texas should've already been on that list
MOVED
just for their gun laws
Princess Emily
I've had people tell me to come visit / stay in Dallas but like
Princess Emily
lol
Princess Emily
being a liberal oasis in a conservative state doesn't help when the state has laws to discriminate against me
Rama
Also doesn't help with the guns tbh
dick judgement
that's so sad because i would totally have believed it
dick judgement
AT LEAST IT ISN'T TRUE
Striving Spark
It's the natural ~next step~ after all. "We stopped letting trans people use the right bathrooms, and it's caused all sorts of trouble. D: " "Hmm..... better stop them from using their biological bathrooms too"
Princess Emily
tbh I can see a conservative looking at OUR argument about trans women being assaulted by using a men's restroom and going
Princess Emily
"Well, then if we ban you lot from using the men's restroom too..."
Striving Spark
Pretty much what goes through my head. :/
Rama
Yeah I mean this was 100% believable
Rama
Which is the saddest thing in the world
Princess Emily
(I state trans women because let's face it, politicians and the transphobic public really only care about trans women using the women's restroom, and trans men are getting caught in the crossfire)
Striving Spark
If they focused on trans men, it would be about the danrs to "those poor women' in the en's room..... But they'd much rather present us as the danger than the potential victims.
MOVED
I think it's cause they can understand why a woman would want to be a man, but why would a man want to be a woman when they are clearly the ~inferior gender~
Princess Emily
I think it's a combination of two things;
Princess Emily
One, sensationalism. They don't approve of trans men, and hence they will still actively discriminate or hate trans men they met in person, but they can't sensationalize them the same way
Princess Emily
And two, the trope that the reason trans women are trans women is to trick people, usually for men and for sex
Princess Emily
So the idea of trans women being men trying to trick people is already established in their head
MOVED
yeah there's that stuff too
MOVED
that whole stupid 90's humor about people being "traps"
LOVE☆STRUCK
well that and while the politicians don't care there are public people who do
Princess Emily
So why would a man tricking peeler top think he's a woman want to use the restroom for, oh obviously to assault women
LOVE☆STRUCK
politicians don't NEED to make people afraid of trans men bc the women and men in our bathrooms/streets already hate us
Princess Emily
People into, wow phone
LOVE☆STRUCK
target trans women and you'll automatically catch us right behind
LOVE☆STRUCK
the biggest thing cis men have against us is that we're faking or we're gay and blah blah blah they have to change us
LOVE☆STRUCK
nothing quite like a cis man asking you to "show him" to prove you're a dude
MOVED
jesus wtf cis men
LOVE☆STRUCK
bc if they flirt with you bc you look even slightly feminine and then say your'e a dude they have to receive verification that they fucked up and pulled a homo
LOVE☆STRUCK
and then if you're in their bathrooms, who the fuck sits to pee
MOVED
yeah because asking to see someone's dick ain't homo at all
LOVE☆STRUCK
there are cis men who care about this??? for some reason??
LOVE☆STRUCK
and don't get me started on homosexual cismen who find out you don't have a dick bc they can be just as fucking gross
MOVED
oh, I believe it.
MOVED
I'm a cis woman so i've already heard many gay men go on about how my vagina is disgusting, so I can only imagine how much worse it is for trans guys
inadequate tits
the lgbt+ community really needs to work on supporting each other
LOVE☆STRUCK
imagine being at a gay club and being dragged into another room where the drag queens are getting dressed and a man shouts at you "real trannies only"
MOVED
uuuugh
LOVE☆STRUCK
bc gay men seem to think they can use that word without it being offensive
MOVED
no,no they can not
MOVED
the lgbta+ community is a fucking mess 
Princess Emily
Yuuup
LOVE☆STRUCK
basically all cis men are tragedies
LOVE☆STRUCK
but yeah p much any legislation against trans women doesn't need to like... elaborate on trans men bc
LOVE☆STRUCK
our entire movement as a public entity kind of followed trans women?
inadequate tits
insulting each other and trying to exclude groups and trying to police when you can or can't be involved based on sexuality or gender
MOVED
please don't use the term "all".
LOVE☆STRUCK
like trans men and trans women have existed for all time
inadequate tits
fucking exhausting
MOVED
I don't want to be "not all men", but it's not cool to be prejudice to any entire group, no matter who they are
LOVE☆STRUCK
but as far as a-- but I don't LITERALLY mean 'all' when I say all
LOVE☆STRUCK
no one really ever does
MOVED
yes, yes they do.
LOVE☆STRUCK
well, I don't.
LOVE☆STRUCK
But, basically, Trans women made more of a public... thing, like, they're the reason trans men can be public at all
LOVE☆STRUCK
so anything against them can and WILL affect us which is why some trans men in this world also need to stop acting like transmysogyny doesn't affect them and work a little harder to protect their sisters
MOVED
maybe you don't, but I don't know you very well- nor do many people in this plurk. So how am I supposed to know what you mean besides what you read?
MOVED
*what I read
LOVE☆STRUCK
well, I'm still under the impression that blanket statements aren't a literal 'all', so the idea that someone would perceive me as saying literally all was quite far from my mind when I said it.
Striving Spark
I'm just really fucking glad I live in Reno where most people don't seem to give a shit.
inadequate tits
inadequate tits
can the government just drop state-wide legislation like that at the drop of a hat? or are there ways to protect people from it
inadequate tits
i mean im in canada so my support means nada but this is scary stuff to watch from afar
MOVED
it depends on the legislation honestly. Governors and Presidents can sign executive orders, but they can be overturned
MOVED
Supreme Court is the only one with the power to drop laws like that that aren't easily overturned, but they can only have a say if a case is brought to them
MOVED
and State Supreme Court can be overruled by National Supreme Court
MOVED
(which is how same-sex marriage became legal nationally- it was the US Supreme Court who was brought a case regarding it from Indiana)
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
a lot of the problems are less the laws themselves (which, don't get me wrong, the laws themselves are a fucking problem), but more what they do to the public image and public thought processes
MOVED
yeah
Striving Spark
Canad has it's won issues with this
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
each time there's a high-profile thing like this, it brings it back into the public mental image of 'this is what trans people are'
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
Fox news does another segment, the sort of website that started this plurk posts another fake scaremongering bullshit
MOVED
and on the legal front, gender identity is not yet protected by our Civil Rights Amendment, so that only validates these assholes
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
If it was only the law, it wouldn't matter nearly so much, because people don't really give a shit about others when they have to pee
MOVED
(sex is, but not gender identity)
MOVED
yeah
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
but now this has come up and people are going to be paying a lot more attention in the bathrooms now
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
like, actually looking out for people who don't 'pass' when previously they would have ignored it on virtue of, you know, needing to take a shit or what have you
MOVED
yup
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
and, of course, the laws also enable this because now they're entitled to throw a shitfit if someone doesn't meet their standards of gender.
MOVED
the media's kinda glomed onto it ever since it bashing gay people became unpopular
MOVED
yup
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
basically: fuck cis guys, fuck conservatives, fuck america
MOVED
it also doesn't help that there's an election year, so there's a lot of politicians that are trying to get idk some kind of fame before November
MOVED
like the ones who proposed the bathroom bill in Minnesota were surprise junior republicans and a guy who wants to run for attorney general this election
MOVED
because apparently throwing innocent people under the bus is a-okay if it gets your name in the paper 
inadequate tits
jfc
A Grinning DM
My aunt (who lives in Florida) posts about this stuff all the time on Facebook about how "ridiculous" she thinks the concept of trans is because you "can't" choose your gender.
A Grinning DM
and I'm just not sure what to even say to her
MOVED
well she's half right. I don't think anyone chooses to be trans
A Grinning DM
well, fair enough, but that is what she thinks it means to be trans
MOVED
no, of course she doesn't mean it that way
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
yeah, i have a bunch of family in tennessee, deeply conservative, incredibly religious
ғᴏxʏᴍᴏʀᴏɴ
there's a reason i don't have a facebook
A Grinning DM
it's the reason I barely ever use facebook anymore